Any AJ fanboy here willing to admit that they undersold Wilder?

[aboutfkntime]

Yes you're mixing up timelines at your convenience.

If you were a normal intelligent human being, you wouldn't have to do that.

But you are because you're driving an agenda.

why would you take it upon yourself to determine what a man is worth?

and when proven wrong..... why would you take it upon yourself to contradict the promoter of the guy you are defending?

[Robbie Barrett]

Yes you're mixing up timelines at your convenience.

If you were a normal intelligent human being, you wouldn't have to do that.

But you are because you're driving an agenda.

Wilder just lost 17 mil choosing to fight Breazeale on Showtime instead of DAZN. So now he would need to make 97 mil in two Joshua fights just to match what DAZN offered.

[Real King Kong]

OF COURSE that offer was a lowball

that is potentially a $100m fight

Team Bullshlt shat the bed when Wilder bet on himself by accepting that lowball..... which is funny as hell

but not as funny as their " lost my pen " excuses

you’ve been arguing the whole time that wilder was worth far more than the 12 mil, yet he allegedly accepted the offer, so obviously his team didn’t agree at that time. Also, any good reason why they turned down the 100mil? I mean, you can’t call that a lowball offer.

[aboutfkntime]

you’ve been arguing the whole time that wilder was worth far more than the 12 mil, yet he allegedly accepted the offer, so obviously his team didn’t agree at that time. Also, any good reason why they turned down the 100mil? I mean, you can’t call that a lowball offer.

forget that " you have been arguing " bullshlt..... ok

FACT: he was OBVIOUSLY worth more than 12mil..... and only a total fkn idiot would deny that fact

and that fact, WAS proven by Hearn himself

listen, when Wilder bet on himself by accepting the 15mil offer..... and Team Bullshlt responded by refusing to include wording in the contract that guaranteed Joshua next..... it became plainly obvious to Team Wilder that Hearn was pulling an "Arum", and had no interest whatsoever in making that fight

then, Team Wilder obviously refused to allow themselves to be played by a party that had proven themselves disingenuous..... unlike Team Mayweather did with the Pacquiao debacle..... they learned

it appears to me like they took the same line..... they decided to forget about Team Joshua and their bullshlt, make their own path, and only re-enter discussions on an even footing..... whilst fighting/beating everyone else to stay relevant

that is unrealistic imho, but it is better than being played by disingenuous story-tellers who are manufacturing lies and excuses for their disgruntled fans..... that fight will likely never happen anyway judging by Team Joshua's apprehension, so Team Wilder likely decided that they will enter negotiations on their terms, and not before

they moved on when the bullshlt became obvious

[Real King Kong]

forget that " you have been arguing " bullshlt..... ok

FACT: he was OBVIOUSLY worth more than 12mil..... and only a total fkn idiot would deny that fact

and that fact, WAS proven by Hearn himself

listen, when Wilder bet on himself by accepting the 15mil offer..... and Team Bullshlt responded by refusing to include wording in the contract that guaranteed Joshua next..... it became plainly obvious to Team Wilder that Hearn was pulling an "Arum", and had no interest whatsoever in making that fight

then, Team Wilder obviously refused to allow themselves to be played by a party that had proven themselves disingenuous..... unlike Team Mayweather did with the Pacquiao debacle..... they learned

it appears to me like they took the same line..... they decided to forget about Team Joshua and their bullshlt, make their own path, and only re-enter discussions on an even footing..... whilst fighting/beating everyone else to stay relevant

that is unrealistic imho, but it is better than being played by disingenuous story-tellers who are manufacturing lies and excuses for their disgruntled fans..... that fight will likely never happen anyway judging by Team Joshua's apprehension, so Team Wilder likely decided that they will enter negotiations on their terms, and not before

they moved on when the bullshlt became obvious

Well if wilder was so obviously worth more than 15 mil, then why did his team allegedly agree to it? Something doesn’t add up. At that time they went for that lowball offer, but now they’ve decided to take a hard stance in the face of 100 mil?

Somewhere in that novel, did you say what you think of them rejecting the 100 mil? I mean, what happened to fighters rejecting big $$$ offers = ducking? That’s what you repeatedly said about Joshua and the alleged 50 mil offer.

[Ray*]

This is the new narrative? So let the fight marinate because they stand to make more later?

[Squ□redCircle34]

They will never admit it, they’re too sick in the head!

They continue to count another man’s money as if Wilder is gonna donate to their go fund me pages!

It’s quite pitiful if you ask me, this is the same fan base that defended a man that told a journalist that if the fans want him to fight Wilder so bad then they should get in the gym and train and go fight Wilder themselves! Lmao

This is the same fanbase that said that why would AJ fight Wilder for 50 million when he can make that in two fights! Lol

Same fan base that can’t understand what it means to be your own boss and to bet on yourself!

DAZN messed up by allowing Wilder to see what he can command and he knows he’s worth more than that!

When it’s time, we’ll see the fight or if not then Wilder will be looked upon as one of the biggest idiots in the sports!

Time tells all!

[aboutfkntime]

Well if wilder was so obviously worth more than 15 mil, then why did his team allegedly agree to it? Something doesn’t add up. At that time they went for that lowball offer, but now they’ve decided to take a hard stance in the face of 100 mil?

Somewhere in that novel, did you say what you think of them rejecting the 100 mil? I mean, what happened to fighters rejecting big $$$ offers = ducking? That’s what you repeatedly said about Joshua and the alleged 50 mil offer.

why ask such a ****** question ?

why behave like that ?

why include the term " allegedly " when you are 100% well-aware that they accepted that offer?..... not even Eddie Hearn denied that Wilder accepted their offer

Wilder bet on himself..... he knew that it was a blatant lowball, but he actually wanted that fight..... and he believed that he could win, which is more than we can say about the other guy

not the first time that has happened in this sport man

now they know that Team Joshua are disingenuous

the lowballs, and the losing of pens..... actually happened dude, and that was the cause of this situation..... so regarding your 100m question, which really is just an excuse to whitewash the lowballing and pen-losing..... all I can suggest is..... Team Wilder moved on when they realized that Team Bullshlt were not serious..... now they have mapped out their own path, and will only consider fighting Joshua on their terms

they are doing exactly what Team Joshua did..... and they are not worried about the result of their (imho) unrealistic position, becuase it appeared to them that a Joshua fight could possibly never happen anyway once it became obvious that Joshua would not even agree to the unreasonable offer made by Hearn

they moved on, they have plans, and they do not take Joshua very seriously..... which is exactly where Team Mayweather ended up when the same thing happened to them

[aboutfkntime]

They will never admit it, they’re too sick in the head!

They continue to count another man’s money as if Wilder is gonna donate to their go fund me pages!

It’s quite pitiful if you ask me, this is the same fan base that defended a man that told a journalist that if the fans want him to fight Wilder so bad then they should get in the gym and train and go fight Wilder themselves! Lmao

This is the same fanbase that said that why would AJ fight Wilder for 50 million when he can make that in two fights! Lol

Same fan base that can’t understand what it means to be your own boss and to bet on yourself!

DAZN messed up by allowing Wilder to see what he can command and he knows he’s worth more than that!

When it’s time, we’ll see the fight or if not then Wilder will be looked upon as one of the biggest idiots in the sports!

Time tells all!

Team Wilders position is unrealistic

they are not - and may never be - worth more than 40% to Joshua

imho, they should take 35%..... which is more than the 15mil flat-fee they already considered

problem is..... there is nothing to indicate that Team Joshua have changed their earlier position, and nothing to indicate they actually want to fight

imho Team Wilder know that they are being a little unrealistic at this point, and they don't care..... because they have no choice

their option is..... allow themselves to be fcuked around and manipulated by a team who has no intention of negotiating fairly, or move on and tell them to go fcuk themselves

I believe that Wilder has plans, and he does not care if those plans never include Joshua..... because they know that Joshua has never been serious, and that fight may never happen anyway

[LacedUp]

why would you take it upon yourself to determine what a man is worth?

and when proven wrong..... why would you take it upon yourself to contradict the promoter of the guy you are defending?

How am I taken it upon myself? Like Wilder said at the press conference.

Men lie. women lie. numbers don't lie.

His numbers show that his biggest payday is between 7-8million.

I'm not contradicting anyone or anything.
As I mentioned, you can't grasp that overpay, deserve, should or should not take are different things.