Any AJ fanboy here willing to admit that they undersold Wilder?

[Jax teller]

Nah Wilder could have fought AJ twice by now and had 40-55 mil in the bank already instead of the 7 from Fury. Along with that he could have the near full backing of the US public for slaying the red-coats and becoming undisputed whilst preparing to face Fury for what 40-80 mil as Wilder would be his own draw by now and the clear A-side. Instead he's fighting Breazeale on free tv because his name still has no value without AJ or Fury.

He has actually acheived very little right at this very minute and the potential of what he has done is risked everytime he or AJ fights another opponent, as anyone can lose at HW.

It's a good move if he or his team doesn't believe he'll make it past AJ though. Otherwise he's justed delayed the part of his career could be bringing in loads of money of his own back and having trilogies with Fury and AJ as the a side.

[Sun_Tzu]

Jesus Christ you mfers are like women.

[Real King Kong]

The AJ fans said Wilder was ducking at $5m and that it was a good deal.
The AJ fans said Wilder was ducking at $15m and that it was a good deal.
The AJ fans now say Wilder is ducking at $40m and that it was a good deal.

The first two statements weren't true at the time yet the AJ fans were all up in arms about how Wilder was a chump who was ducking AJ. It was funny how certain people here - mostly from a particular region in the world - have stamped their feet and thrown temper tantrums about how Wilder was a coward. Not a week went by without a new thread from some of these folks. Considering the short amount of time that has passed and the amount that the offers have risen, it shows that all those fanboys were wrong - those deals ****** all along as some of us said they did. They were chump change deals and now everyone knows it. Time to apologize, fanboys. You were and are wrong.

Somehow though the narrative hasn't changed yet from those same trash posters because they're not mature enough to admit it. They instead continue to double (triple?) down on their own idiocy. They still claim Wilder is ducking AJ. Guess what? He didn't duck him then and he isn't ducking now. And for the millionth time I will say that I believe AJ has the upper hand in a match between him and Wilder. When that fight happens I'm putting money on AJ.

So let's get this out there. Wilder's pattern isn't ducking and it's actually quite consistent. Instead, Wilder has and continues to bet on himself. He could have taken the guaranteed low-ball money but he's continually doubled down on his ability to bank more later. And that belief has been rewarded as he banks more in each fight. Now he's talking big time numbers. He's like a poker player and his pile of chips has steadily increased. Was this the right time to push them to the middle? It's pretty obvious that he doesn't think so.

As for my personal take, I'm inclined to believe that the current offers are good. I think we're finally into the ballpark of what is the reasonable market rate. Without knowing any more I probably would have taken it. But I'm not privy to all the offers Wilder has received and I doubt anyone else here is either. It may be that by waiting another 3 months and KOing Breazeale - if he does - could up that offer to $200M over 3-4 fights. We simply don't know what the maximum upside is since undefeated heavyweights historically have always commanded the most money. It could be that by holding out just a few more months and another win both he and Joshua could make money that makes the Floyd-Pac gate look small. If Wilder thinks (or more likely if it's already down on paper) that he could make more by winning his next one and then signing then he's just betting on himself which is what he's done consistently. It could be a smart move or his run at the table could end suddenly and all those potential riches would instantly evaporate. That's the risk he's taking and we'll see if it pays off or whether it's one of the dumbest business decisions in boxing history.

Alt spotted. You’ll be in here with your main agreeing with yourself no doubt.

[Outwest Exp 355]

40 million is a good deal but it’s not the deal Wilders team is looking for. They believe there is a better deal out there. Shelley is set on a 50/50 split and hopefully they can get an offer close enough for them to come down a little bit if 50/50 isn’t doable.

[LacedUp]

When Wilder gets more than 12million for a fight I'll accept he was undersold.

As of right now, his best payday is around 7million, so can't say 12 or 15 million was a bad offer.

40x2 was an unbelievable, Godsend that only the biggest moron on the planet would turn down.

[aboutfkntime]

The AJ fans said Wilder was ducking at $5m and that it was a good deal.
The AJ fans said Wilder was ducking at $15m and that it was a good deal.
The AJ fans now say Wilder is ducking at $40m and that it was a good deal.

The first two statements weren't true at the time yet the AJ fans were all up in arms about how Wilder was a chump who was ducking AJ. It was funny how certain people here - mostly from a particular region in the world - have stamped their feet and thrown temper tantrums about how Wilder was a coward. Not a week went by without a new thread from some of these folks. Considering the short amount of time that has passed and the amount that the offers have risen, it shows that all those fanboys were wrong - those deals ****** all along as some of us said they did. They were chump change deals and now everyone knows it. Time to apologize, fanboys. You were and are wrong.

Somehow though the narrative hasn't changed yet from those same trash posters because they're not mature enough to admit it. They instead continue to double (triple?) down on their own idiocy. They still claim Wilder is ducking AJ. Guess what? He didn't duck him then and he isn't ducking now. And for the millionth time I will say that I believe AJ has the upper hand in a match between him and Wilder. When that fight happens I'm putting money on AJ.

So let's get this out there. Wilder's pattern isn't ducking and it's actually quite consistent. Instead, Wilder has and continues to bet on himself. He could have taken the guaranteed low-ball money but he's continually doubled down on his ability to bank more later. And that belief has been rewarded as he banks more in each fight. Now he's talking big time numbers. He's like a poker player and his pile of chips has steadily increased. Was this the right time to push them to the middle? It's pretty obvious that he doesn't think so.

As for my personal take, I'm inclined to believe that the current offers are good. I think we're finally into the ballpark of what is the reasonable market rate. Without knowing any more I probably would have taken it. But I'm not privy to all the offers Wilder has received and I doubt anyone else here is either. It may be that by waiting another 3 months and KOing Breazeale - if he does - could up that offer to $200M over 3-4 fights. We simply don't know what the maximum upside is since undefeated heavyweights historically have always commanded the most money. It could be that by holding out just a few more months and another win both he and Joshua could make money that makes the Floyd-Pac gate look small. If Wilder thinks (or more likely if it's already down on paper) that he could make more by winning his next one and then signing then he's just betting on himself which is what he's done consistently. It could be a smart move or his run at the table could end suddenly and all those potential riches would instantly evaporate. That's the risk he's taking and we'll see if it pays off or whether it's one of the dumbest business decisions in boxing history.

Immediately prior to the Fury Fight, Eddie Hearn slipped up and admitted that Wilder was worth AT LEAST 35%

When he inadvertently slipped up and made that admission..... he also admitted that his earlier offers were nothing but bullshlt lowballs

and he totally embarrassed the excuse-making fanboy idiots who defended those absurd "offers"

they shat themselves when Wilder accepted that 15mil lowball..... you are correct, Wilder has been more-than-willing to bet on himself

nothing since then has convinced me that Team Bullshlt..... ooops, I mean..... Team Joshua..... have decided that they want that fight

it will happen, when they are ready..... and they will be ready when they have either exhausted all of their other options, or Joshua's numbers start to visibly drop..... whichever comes first.

clearly facing Wilder is not in their best interests at this point, as they have many better (safer) options..... Wilder is not a draw, although that fight itself will be huge

none of that coward/chicken rubbish, just good solid business decisions from a genuine superstar

no big deal, but Joshua is obviously avoiding that fight

nobody should be burning effigies of Joshua, you should all understand whats up..... but those who have decided to spin it around and blame Wilder, are just ignorant pieces of shlt who should never be taken seriously

it is clearly obvious whats up

[aboutfkntime]

When Wilder gets more than 12million for a fight I'll accept he was undersold.

As of right now, his best payday is around 7million, so can't say 12 or 15 million was a bad offer.

40x2 was an unbelievable, Godsend that only the biggest moron on the planet would turn down.

he fkn can so, what a ****** post

I would just about bet my life that you insisted Mayweathers flat-fee offer to Pacquiao was a bad deal, despite the fact that Manny had never taken home a cheque that big

AJ turned down 80mil for a two-fight deal, despite the fact he has never made that much for 2x fights

that is not how you calculate your worth

[LacedUp]

he fkn can so, what a ****** post

I would just about bet my life that you insisted Mayweathers flat-fee offer to Pacquiao was a bad deal, despite the fact that Manny had never taken home a cheque that big

AJ turned down 80mil for a two-fight deal, despite the fact he has never made that much for 2x fights

that is not how you calculate your worth

You don't have an education, so no reason to speak with me.

[aboutfkntime]

You don't have an education, so no reason to speak with me.

I know the difference between a weak excuse and a valid reason

so..... you are right, we have nothing to discuss

[giant_king]

Hearn has to realize what deontay brings to the table.u can take A.j away from the hw division would still be poppin.u take wilder away its boring as u no what.50/50 or peace lol