Let's put an end to this Margarito and plaster nonsense.

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  • sugar ray lenrd
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    #91
    Originally posted by dukesville
    Give it up dude you sound ridiculous, had that been the case there would be no doubt. There was a video were Richardson can be seen persuading the commisionar becaus the commission didn't notice anything. These were trace amounts at the lab! In a pad that Richardson and team had access to before being sealed you fool.
    So now your trying to make Richardson the dirty one here???..Your reaching son. Quit while you can.

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      #92
      Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd
      some idiots in here don't realize that when someone gets hit in there face with loaded gloves you damage the fighters tissues in the face....hence Cotto getting easily bruised in the 2nd fight w/ MargoCheato, althought not as bad as the first fight.
      Yes, thats indeed what happens, and Cotto was busted up in a way that didn't reflect how the fight was unfolding. He was taking more damage than he should have reasonable been expected to take for the number of shots he was taking.

      Also if you look at Margaritos fight with Sebasian Lujan, where he literally tore his ear off, it looks pretty su****ious after the fact, knowing that he was loading his gloves with plaster.

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        #93
        Originally posted by !! Shawn
        i don't know if you understand this or not, but the basis of his argument, is evidence tried before a court, with forensic evidence that confirms that the substance found in the pads was plaster of paris.

        Its also, that you are being willfully ignorant, and refusing to look at read, or even attempt to understand any of the evidence or testimony of people that were there, saw the pads, touched that pads, were responsible for overseeing the handwraping process, etc.

        That you didn't even know the pads were wet when they were discovered says everything anyone needs to know about your understanding of the topic that is being discussed.

        You have none. You don't know the facts, you wont read the facts, you just want to pretend like they don't exist.

        You want to pretend that margarito didn't challenge the fact that there was indeed plaster on the pads. He accepted that as fact.

        If he can accept that as fact, why cant you?
        this here says it all

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        • dukesville
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          #94
          Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd
          So now your trying to make Richardson the dirty one here???..Your reaching son. Quit while you can.
          Im not trying anything Glowacki's trainer cought him trying to use tampered gloves. When he fought the boss Ross, Ross says he was thumbed which is the part that was tampered with in the Glowacki case. There was also a video with the Adamek fight.

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            #95
            Originally posted by dukesville
            Give it up dude you sound ridiculous, had that been the case there would be no doubt. There was a video were Richardson can be seen persuading the commisionar becaus the commission didn't notice anything. These were trace amounts at the lab! In a pad that Richardson and team had access to before being sealed you fool.
            So your position now is that there was indeed plaster on the pads but that Richardson put it there?

            There are zero lab reports describing the amounts as trace, or describing the quantity present at all. The tests were simply to determine the composition of the substance, which turned out definitively to be a gypsum based plaster commonly known as plaster of paris.

            Numerous eye witnesses describe the amount present on the pad... I don't think you describe there being a thick white substance like plaster or whiteout being on gauze if the amount of material is trace.

            Trace would imply that a test was required to detect the presence of the material.

            But... since the material could be seen with the unaided eye, and furthermore could be felt... I'll go ahead and say no... it was not trace amounts.

            If mental gymnastics were in the olympics, you would bring home the gold medal for sure.

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              #96
              Can someone tell me why all these threads are popping up about this clown? Whats worse is the TS in each one is defending what he did.

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                #97
                Originally posted by dukesville
                Im not trying anything Glowacki's trainer cought him trying to use tampered gloves. When he fought the boss Ross, Ross says he was thumbed which is the part that was tampered with in the Glowacki case. There was also a video with the Adamek fight.
                Whatever happen with Naz Richardson in the Glowacki fight has nothing to do with what MargoCheatos team did in the Cotto fight. It's irrelevant. And yes, you are trying to make an association & questioning Richardson's character. You need to stop that. Yes trainers are always trying to get an age for their fighters with little things, but loading up someone's gloves that's shameful & criminal.

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                  #98
                  thought this was a bump of an older post. Dude no one cares man. It's already been settled. This is ancient history.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by satiev1
                    thought this was a bump of an older post. Dude no one cares man. It's already been settled. This is ancient history.
                    You would hope it was, but some people are just painfully unaware of the world.

                    Some of these guys seems to be completely unaware that everyone else on the planet is aware, and accepts that Margarito attempted to fight Shane Mosley with plaster in his gloves.

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                    • dukesville
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by !! Shawn
                      I don't know if you understand this or not, but the basis of his argument, is evidence tried before a court, with forensic evidence that confirms that the substance found in the pads was plaster of paris.

                      Its also, that you are being willfully ignorant, and refusing to look at read, or even attempt to understand any of the evidence or testimony of people that were there, saw the pads, touched that pads, were responsible for overseeing the handwraping process, etc.

                      That you didn't even know the pads were wet when they were discovered says everything anyone needs to know about your understanding of the topic that is being discussed.

                      You have none. You don't know the facts, you wont read the facts, you just want to pretend like they don't exist.

                      You want to pretend that Margarito didn't challenge the fact that there was indeed plaster on the pads. He accepted that as fact.

                      If he can accept that as fact, why cant you?
                      Ok, maybe I didn't know they were wet. Where in the commission hearing report does it say they were wet?

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