Manny Pacquiao is GREATER than Mayweather IF HE FIGHTS Keith Thurman!

[chrisJS]

You have to factor In the fact pac beat jmm 3 times, and it took 4 attempts to ko Pac after stepping on his foot and many believe JMM was on pEds. He couldn't take any pac shots in first fight but somehow in 4th fight, he was willing to take Pacs shots to get his own ko blow in? If he had of done that in first fight he wouldn't have seen 3rd round.

Once Marquez got his legs back under him he took Pacquaio's shots just fine in fight I. Even Pacquaio didn't hit him after that round then how do you come to the conclusion that Pacquaio won? Considering he landed no punches in 11 rounds?

Marquez was hurt badly in round 5 of fight IV. Worse than he was hurt in any other fight in his career.

Stepping on his foot? LOL. It's right hand vs. southpaw. The only dirty tactics used in any of their fights was Pacquaio's seemingly deliberate headbutt in fight II (where he smirked afterwards) and the blatant punch landed when Marquez was down in fight I on the third knockdown. If he loses a point (correct ruling) then he loses the decision.

[CHOWWOKKA]

These floyd vs manny debates are pointless...
They need to get in the ring together and just fight to see who is better.

😂😂

[hugh grant]

Once Marquez got his legs back under him he took Pacquaio's shots just fine in fight I. Even Pacquaio didn't hit him after that round then how do you come to the conclusion that Pacquaio won? Considering he landed no punches in 11 rounds?

Marquez was hurt badly in round 5 of fight IV. Worse than he was hurt in any other fight in his career.

Stepping on his foot? LOL. It's right hand vs. southpaw. The only dirty tactics used in any of their fights was Pacquaio's seemingly deliberate headbutt in fight II (where he smirked afterwards) and the blatant punch landed when Marquez was down in fight I on the third knockdown. If he loses a point (correct ruling) then he loses the decision.

If not for scorecard error, Pac has on paper 3 razor close wins over JMM. That is greater historically than Floyds one convincing win. Especially cheated scales win.
Pac did everything on a grander scale. His career is bigger. Beat Morales x2, Barrera x2, JMM x2, Bradley x2.

[The Big Dunn]

Historically, 3 wins is better than 1 win. It would be 3 wins if not error on scorecard. Floyd cheated scales, came in over contracted weight so it further downgrades his win over JMM.
Pac beat all common opponents more dominantly, so to try to make an excuse for why that is, is only to try make Floyd some kind of charity case who needs help to justify Floyd not being able to match Pac,
Pac is greater than Floyd. Most boxing fans will tell you that.

If you give Manny a win in the draw, it's only fair you give JMM wins in the 2nd and 3rd fight since the majority of media scoring the fight thought JMM won. That would make JMM 3-1 against Manny.so how about we just go with the official results, 2-1-1 Manny.

Floyd beat them first. You don't get as much credit as the first guy that did something when you are the 2nd guy to do something.

Most boxing fans say the exact opposite. There is vocal group of delusional pac fans and those that hate Floyd that say otherwise but their votes are biased, same as Floyd fans vote would be. That's why we go to objective polls of people who love the sport and only care that the truth about it is told to those on the outside.

In those polls, Floyd is ALWAYS ranked higher. I think that is testament to how fair the caretakers of the sport are and how they put truth above bias, because they know us fans don't always do that. They don't want to see the sport hurt by misconceptions of what true greatness is.

[The Big Dunn]

because he came in over weight!!!! why did he had to pay a fee then?

they negotiated that in the revised contract Floyd signed.

[The Big Dunn]

If not for scorecard error, Pac has on paper 3 razor close wins over JMM. That is greater historically than Floyds one convincing win. Especially cheated scales win.
Pac did everything on a grander scale. His career is bigger. Beat Morales x2, Barrera x2, JMM x2, Bradley x2.

He also lost on grander scale. Morales, Torrecampo, JMM, Bradley. Horn, oh yeah and um Floyd.

[IceTrayDaGang]

they negotiated that in the revised contract Floyd signed.

exactly! because the first contract was for 144.

[The Big Dunn]

exactly! because the first contract was for 144.

Yeah we all knew this. So I'm not sure why you keep asking about it.

You watched the Manny/broner fight I assume. Respond in the other thread about Manny's best performance.

[hugh grant]

If you give Manny a win in the draw, it's only fair you give JMM wins in the 2nd and 3rd fight since the majority of media scoring the fight thought JMM won. That would make JMM 3-1 against Manny.so how about we just go with the official results, 2-1-1 Manny.

Floyd beat them first. You don't get as much credit as the first guy that did something when you are the 2nd guy to do something.

Most boxing fans say the exact opposite. There is vocal group of delusional pac fans and those that hate Floyd that say otherwise but their votes are biased, same as Floyd fans vote would be. That's why we go to objective polls of people who love the sport and only care that the truth about it is told to those on the outside.

In those polls, Floyd is ALWAYS ranked higher. I think that is testament to how fair the caretakers of the sport are and how they put truth above bias, because they know us fans don't always do that. They don't want to see the sport hurt by misconceptions of what true greatness is.

Your draining me I don't think ive got the energy now to respond to this post.
So JMM is 3 wins to pacs 1 win? So Castillo beat Floyd maybe, and Maidana beat Floyd maybe?
So Torrecampo may get more credit than Floyd for Pac win? So Pac should get more credit for JMM win as he beat him first? So FLoyd should get little credit for SSM, and DLH wins as they were beaten many times, plus over the hill?
I think boxing fans think Pac has the greater boxing story. JMM thought Pac was the best of era. I heard Roach say maybe Floyd should be as he was unbeaten? So you can make a case for both. You have to go with what appeals to you, and that's what people do.

[hugh grant]

He also lost on grander scale. Morales, Torrecampo, JMM, Bradley. Horn, oh yeah and um Floyd.

Pac was certainly robbed on a grander scale. Yes, Pac has losses, but so did guys greater than Floyd have losses.
Floyd not having losses is due to him being cautious most of the time, and favourable decisions.