Manny Pacquiao is GREATER than Mayweather IF HE FIGHTS Keith Thurman!

[hugh grant]

See, even though you deleted it you did it again. when Manny loses, you find a way to discredit the win. You claim Manny was hurt, JMM was on peds, or he got robbed in other losses. You give no one any credit for beating Manny but give him extra credit for every win he has. That is extremely biased and unfair.

You give Manny a pass for every loss and treat him like he is an undefeated boxer. On the flip side because Floyd never lost and is actually an undefeated fighter you unfairly try to lessen every win.

Your bias is unbelievable. If you would just treat everyone equally you would see why Floyd is greater but you can't do that.

Really sad!

No, I don't make excuses for when Pac loses. Every ATG loses. You keep making more of FLoyds unbeaten record than it is. I wouldn't be critical of Floyd for losing to Maidana or Castillo. I would discredit Floyd for being to cautious in career, not trying to do things people didn't think he could do. Just doing it once or twice over a career isn't enough. What, against Corralles and DLH? Lots of things to be critical over Floyd rather than thinking he lost once or twice. Stop obsessing over losses.
Pac beat everyone more dominantly than FLoyd in more divisions. Doing things no other boxer has done.
That's why Pacs greater.

[j.razor]

Floyd lacks resume. He never have a prime HoF in his resume. It's always past prime opponents or b level fighters. There is quantity in his resume but not much quality yet Floyd fans seem to think that he has a Roberto Duran or a Robinson in the prime of their careers on his resume when you begin to talk about resume.

It just lacks upper echelon names in their primes compared to Pacquiao who fought and beat 3 prime HoF. That is why to me Floyd is 2nd to Manny despite beating him and on top of that Manny achieved more than Floyd in terms of weight classes jumped.

See what I mean ^ that dumb shet. T.B.E. shets all over duran's resume & everyone in history

[j.razor]

I was not referring to Morales as the third man of the HoF, I was referring to Bradley whom IMO would be a HoF. Barrera retired at 22, at 97 for surgery then comes back then beats Hamed, Tapia, Kelly, Morales before getting whooped by Manny at the age of 28 at 03. That's hardly "passed prime".

That Barrera win is better than any win Floyd has on his resume. Because 1. Barrera was in his prime 2. Barrera was in his best weight class 3. Barrera was coming off with some of his greatest wins, so momentum was on his side, 4. Barrera was a genuine boxing ATG.

And I see no win of Floyd that trumps that.

Got another Certified T.B.E. Hater ^

[j.razor]

??
How so

Originally Posted by CHOWWOKKA
I mean if he beat Thurman I would say he has a better resume then Floyd...but just taking a fight nah.
But that logic ODLH is a top 10 atg.

Cuz Manny has MULTIPLE losses & has been K.O.'d more than once but if he beats Keith he has a better resume than Floyd? It goes back to the "ODLH is a top 10 atg." lol

[j.razor]

Okay, cool if you think that is the case more power to you. I disagree still.

Its because you CHOOSE to disagree not because T.B.E. is better than #48....LMMFAO!

[j.razor]

and you have to wonder if marquez was affected by the heavier weight floyd came in at.

T.B.E. is that great that its not fair he be bigger than some one but its okay everyone else be bigger than him

[j.razor]

The Corrales fight ended up as a pick'em. Corrales wasn't in great shape to fight give that he had a sentencing hanging over his head and was killing himself around that time to make weight. I think Arum was fast to throw that fight together when they realized Chico was in bad legal problems after initially planning to have Chico move up before they met.

Barrera's status (pre-Pacquaio) was far better than Corrales. Chico was on The Ring's p4p list (way too high) but nobody else's, whereas Barrera was in every single top 3 or 4 and clearly a far superior fighter. His "retirement" was a few months and he came back a better fighter than prior hence scoring his best wins, best performances and most consistency after "retirement". It's not like he got fat, went away and got rusty. Also, given what we know about Chico's career, his prime really came a few years later when he fought Casamayor and Castillo. He was a better, more rounded fighter whereas at 130 he'd beaten the shopworn Manfredy, the much smaller Gainer and Garcia who'd been putting some serious leather on him.

I think Corrales' legal situation had more impact than Barrera's "retirement" and he was nowhere near as good to begin with.

Roach wasn't hired by Cotto until years later.

You the same cornball that said joke calslappy is better than T.B.E. FOH with that dumb shet.

[CHOWWOKKA]

Originally Posted by CHOWWOKKA
I mean if he beat Thurman I would say he has a better resume then Floyd...but just taking a fight nah.
But that logic ODLH is a top 10 atg.

Cuz Manny has MULTIPLE losses & has been K.O.'d more than once but if he beats Keith he has a better resume than Floyd? It goes back to the "ODLH is a top 10 atg." lol

Yes beating Thurman would add greatly to his resume in which I would think puts his resume.over Floyd's. I dont see the inconsistency

[BoxingTrav]

How can a resume with knockout losses to a couple of bums be better than an unblemished one.

[The Big Dunn]

No, I don't make excuses for when Pac loses. Every ATG loses. You keep making more of FLoyds unbeaten record than it is. I wouldn't be critical of Floyd for losing to Maidana or Castillo. I would discredit Floyd for being to cautious in career, not trying to do things people didn't think he could do. Just doing it once or twice over a career isn't enough. What, against Corralles and DLH? Lots of things to be critical over Floyd rather than thinking he lost once or twice. Stop obsessing over losses.
Pac beat everyone more dominantly than FLoyd in more divisions. Doing things no other boxer has done.
That's why Pacs greater.

Yes you do, you discredit every win over him. Actually I know an ATG that hasn't lost, Floyd.

I haven't made anything of Floyd's unbeaten record. I just pointed it out because it's a fact. Same as you did about Manny having 2 wins over JMM. Losses are facts as well and should be factored in.

Floyd beat JMM better. He beat Shane better. He beat odh and Hatton well before Manny did. He also has the best win out of the 2.

Just be fir when you compare. Stop letting your bias discredit every one that beats Manny.