Would prime Tommy Morrison be undisputed HW champion against the current crop?

[Citizen Koba]

Compared to the '90s guys he was stiff and one-handed, yes.

But in my opinion he's smooth as silk compared to Joshua and Wilder.

The level he was fighting at was in the main pretty poor (though of course you can always come back and argue that the calibre of even second raters then was higher than it is now), he didn't have much of a jab or the length to use it effectively against some of the larger guys and he telegraphs hell out of some of those hooks.

He's probably closest in more recent terms to a Povetkin or a Boytsov (remember him?) - but of course there's only so many paths to victory when you're 6'2" and explosive... thing is you're almost always gonna come unstuck against a taller guy with a decent jab. The smaller guys do look fairly quick against the behemoths at HW but against a well schooled fighter the advantage is largely illusionary. Add to that that Tommy didn't really have much of a chin and his stamina was not great and I doubt he'd have more than moderate success... Povetkin level at best perhaps - though that really ain't a slur given Sasha was a talented amateur too.

But, hey, it's all angels on a pinhead sorta stuff... like I say it's my belief that if you dropped a stack of fighters from any division from the past into their equivalent divisions today they would probably slot in around the same sort of level give or take... but I can't prove that ish, of course.





Here's highlight vids of Sasha and Tommy... funny thing is we all literally see different things based on our expectations and preferences so I can speak only for myself, but I know who I'd be picking in some imaginary H2H.

[joseph5620]

His chin held up against George Foreman. I think be could hang with these guys.

Foreman was in his forties and Morrison changed his strategy to move and box so Foreman never caught him with any big shots.

Fighters like Joshua, Wilder, and Fury are much faster than an old Foreman. But look at Morrison's track record. Dropped twice by a faded past prime Carl "the truth Williams. Knocked out in one by Michael Bentt. Knocked silly by Ray Mercer. Dropped twice and held to a draw by Ross Purity. Struggled badly with Joe Hipp and suffered a broken jaw. That's not the making of an undisputed champion.


Morrison simply wasn't good enough to beat Wilder, Joshua, and Fury. Every one of those fighters has better stamina and they all take a better punch than Morrison. They also beat their C level opponents without getting knocked down multiple times.

[billeau2]

The level he was fighting at was in the main pretty poor (though of course you can always come back and argue that the calibre of even second raters then was higher than it is now), he didn't have much of a jab or the length to use it effectively against some of the larger guys and he telegraphs hell out of some of those hooks.

He's probably closest in more recent terms to a Povetkin or a Boytsov (remember him?) - but of course there's only so many paths to victory when you're 6'2" and explosive... thing is you're almost always gonna come unstuck against a taller guy with a decent jab. The smaller guys do look fairly quick against the behemoths at HW but against a well schooled fighter the advantage is largely illusionary. Add to that that Tommy didn't really have much of a chin and his stamina was not great and I doubt he'd have more than moderate success... Povetkin level at best perhaps - though that really ain't a slur given Sasha was a talented amateur too.

But, hey, it's all angels on a pinhead sorta stuff... like I say it's my belief that if you dropped a stack of fighters from any division from the past into their equivalent divisions today they would probably slot in around the same sort of level give or take... but I can't prove that ish, of course.





Here's highlight vids of Sasha and Tommy... funny thing is we all literally see different things based on our expectations and preferences so I can speak only for myself, but I know who I'd be picking in some imaginary H2H.

Thats a great analogy Did you study philosophy? medieval philosophy?

Morrison is one of those guys who was brought along right, and developed good skills by being fed the right competition at the right time. He beat some slicksters, Tillis and Thomas, also some good hitters, Foreman and Rudock among them... If we catch prime Morrison which would have to be an amalgamation of one sort or another...perhaps just after Thomas and before he screwed up against Mercer the merk man... It would be interesting.

IMO he beats the secondary guys is a fair assumption. he never had the style to touch Fury, time will show us how good Fury is, I believe. Against Joshua I think its a toss up. Joshua is coming into his best and when he gets there he will probably be a better fighter than Morrison, but at this stage? Either one could get tagged hard and be susceptable to big punches. As a matter of fact Razor Rudock could be a precident as a big hitter who faced Morrison...Razor had one good hand, but knew how to use it well. I would put him roughly at the level of Joshua now all things considered.

Wilder... hard to say. To date we don't really know his chin, I can see a fight similar to the Ortiz affair because of late rounds stamina issues from Tommy... Again a toss up, just like ortiz almost beat Wilder and could have won that battle (toss up). Morrison beat a lot of good fighters and lost to two guys who are hardly slouches (Mercer and Lewis) and there were a few screw ups there as well... But he did have skills and could put together punches very well. To understand this one has to watch Tommy coming up, how he progressed, not necessarily how he looked when he fought at the highest level...he was already having problems then.

[boliodogs]

He might be able to become the undisputed champion but I have to vote yes or no so I vote no. At least one of the top three would probably beat him. He was good though and a very hard fast puncher.

[ΣNΣMY]

The size would be too much for the top 3 but yeah he'd knockout most everyone else.

[Phenom]

Prime Morrison probably be in the mix up there with the top 3 AJ fight would've been entertaining fight two stiff dudes throwing bombs

[kafkod]

The level he was fighting at was in the main pretty poor (though of course you can always come back and argue that the calibre of even second raters then was higher than it is now), he didn't have much of a jab or the length to use it effectively against some of the larger guys and he telegraphs hell out of some of those hooks.

He's probably closest in more recent terms to a Povetkin or a Boytsov (remember him?) - but of course there's only so many paths to victory when you're 6'2" and explosive... thing is you're almost always gonna come unstuck against a taller guy with a decent jab. The smaller guys do look fairly quick against the behemoths at HW but against a well schooled fighter the advantage is largely illusionary. Add to that that Tommy didn't really have much of a chin and his stamina was not great and I doubt he'd have more than moderate success... Povetkin level at best perhaps - though that really ain't a slur given Sasha was a talented amateur too.

But, hey, it's all angels on a pinhead sorta stuff... like I say it's my belief that if you dropped a stack of fighters from any division from the past into their equivalent divisions today they would probably slot in around the same sort of level give or take... but I can't prove that ish, of course.





Here's highlight vids of Sasha and Tommy... funny thing is we all literally see different things based on our expectations and preferences so I can speak only for myself, but I know who I'd be picking in some imaginary H2H.

The level he was fighting at was in the main pretty poor (though of course you can always come back and argue that the calibre of even second raters then was higher than it is now), he didn't have much of a jab or the length to use it effectively against some of the larger guys and he telegraphs hell out of some of those hooks.

He's probably closest in more recent terms to a Povetkin or a Boytsov (remember him?) - but of course there's only so many paths to victory when you're 6'2" and explosive... thing is you're almost always gonna come unstuck against a taller guy with a decent jab. The smaller guys do look fairly quick against the behemoths at HW but against a well schooled fighter the advantage is largely illusionary. Add to that that Tommy didn't really have much of a chin and his stamina was not great and I doubt he'd have more than moderate success... Povetkin level at best perhaps - though that really ain't a slur given Sasha was a talented amateur too.

But, hey, it's all angels on a pinhead sorta stuff... like I say it's my belief that if you dropped a stack of fighters from any division from the past into their equivalent divisions today they would probably slot in around the same sort of level give or take... but I can't prove that ish, of course.





Here's highlight vids of Sasha and Tommy... funny thing is we all literally see different things based on our expectations and preferences so I can speak only for myself, but I know who I'd be picking in some imaginary H2H.

To get the full picture you would need to also post highlight videos of both guy's ko defeats. Povetkin's would be shorter than Morrison's.

Sasha was only stopped once, at 39 years old, by AJ. Prime Morrison was KTFO in one round by Michael Bentt!

[BigZ44]

No, think it'd be a shootout against Wilder with whoever lands their bombs first winning. Fury out-boxes him and Joshua KO's him

[Navalny20!8]

He would definitely be in the top 5, maybe even in the top 3, but I do not think that he would be the undisputed HW champion.

[j0zef]

Can't see it. Too short, too slow, not skillful enough defensively, suspect chin. He loses easily to the cream of the crop, and likely to 2nd raters.