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  • #71
    Originally posted by lfc19titles View Post
    Nobody has disclosed it

    But if it was a bad offer team wilder would have made sure like last time when they kept crying on Twitter

    They are quiet for a reason and claiming Joshua is begging to kill the fight by annoying him to the point he walks away

    Imagine if a fighter told mayweather he was begging to fight, Floyd would have walked away

    And yes Joshua vs wilder is like Floyd vs berto no matter how much you try to deny it

    Wilder won’t fight Joshua, he wants to keep his gifts


    right, you made it up

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Toffee View Post
      So you're all adamant that Joshua doesn't want the fight because he's offered a flat fee.

      Surely this is how negotiations work? You make an offer below what you would take, and you see what the counter offer is. Then you start negotiating.

      I haven't heard any news of a counter offer. Does Wilder want the fight?


      it is a negotiation tactic, it's stalling. you make an offer that is designed to not be taken. in hearn's case he offered a fight with a flat fee and he offered a fight without a date. this fight would possibly be the highest grossing fight at HW of all time, mind you, and hearn knows damn there won't be a flat fee.

      hearn's original flat fee offer to wilder was just about what joe parker got. joe f#cking parker! he got a split between 30 and 35%! and wilder doesn't deserve a split? dillian white is going to make more in the rematch than the flat fee hearn offered!

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      • #73
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        right, you made it up
        Hearn has confirmed he has made a offer and team Wilder hasn’t denied it

        Joshua confirmed an offer has been made

        Wilder confirmed they are begging for the fight

        Here is confirmation it’s s percentage split

        https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sky...anthony-joshua

        You Must be ******ed if you think there is no offer

        As I said a bad offer gets leaked like last time, tick tock, how will wilder duck this one

        Now that you have your link, what is your next excuse
        Last edited by lfc19titles; 12-28-2018, 03:57 PM.

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        • #74
          Good stuff on here. The AJ fans in full defense This is the biggest fight to make in boxing right now and both deserve their fair split..with AJ getting the lions share and I'm sure his fangirls will agree, because hes the bigger draw. BUT that doesn't mean hes the better fighter of the 2.

          I don't believe Hearn has any intention of making the fight honestly as Wilders too much of a risk n AJ losing will impact DAZN subscribers or future subscribers. Then you would have an undisputed HW Champ in a stable of Hearns promotional/network competitors. They're just gonna milk AJ as long as they can.

          However Wilder is technically a promotional free agent and has interesting options in the matchroom stable. Wilder is too much of a financial risk for matchroom. So in reality this fight wont happen this year.. more likely 2020, Wilder will be 35.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by New England View Post
            it is a negotiation tactic, it's stalling. you make an offer that is designed to not be taken. in hearn's case he offered a fight with a flat fee and he offered a fight without a date. this fight would possibly be the highest grossing fight at HW of all time, mind you, and hearn knows damn there won't be a flat fee.

            hearn's original flat fee offer to wilder was just about what joe parker got. joe f#cking parker! he got a split between 30 and 35%! and wilder doesn't deserve a split? dillian white is going to make more in the rematch than the flat fee hearn offered!
            The flat fee isn't designed to be accepted. It's to get the ball rolling.

            No-one expects to win with their first bid in an auction. They are trying to set a low bar.

            Ball is in Wilder's court now. It's not Hearn's job to make Wilder's fights. He doesn't need to keep making offers. You can't just say "no", you're supposed to come back with something else.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by lfc19titles View Post
              Hearn has confirmed he has made a offer and team Wilder hasn’t denied it

              Joshua confirmed an offer has been made

              Wilder confirmed they are begging for the fight

              Here is confirmation it’s s percentage split

              https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sky...anthony-joshua

              You Must be ******ed if you think there is no offer

              As I said a bad offer gets leaked like last time, tick tock, how will wilder duck this one

              Now that you have your link, what is your next excuse
              Most are questioning why a new offer has not been submitted since the Wilder Fury fight. The offer with a split (that you reference) was sent before the Fury fight and turned down because Team Wder felt their negotiating power would increase after the fight. It did and Hearn acknowledged that a 35% split was "fair".

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Toffee View Post
                The flat fee isn't designed to be accepted. It's to get the ball rolling.

                No-one expects to win with their first bid in an auction. They are trying to set a low bar.

                Ball is in Wilder's court now. It's not Hearn's job to make Wilder's fights. He doesn't need to keep making offers. You can't just say "no", you're supposed to come back with something else.
                They did. They came back with no. We want a split. Up until after the Fury fight was signed, no split was offered.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                  Most are questioning why a new offer has not been submitted since the Wilder Fury fight. The offer with a split (that you reference) was sent before the Fury fight and turned down because Team Wder felt their negotiating power would increase after the fight. It did and Hearn acknowledged that a 35% split was "fair".
                  If you read the link

                  The offer is assuming wilder beat fury, I’m not sure what it holds but wilder had a chance to evoke undisputed champ and he will earn much more than 15m

                  He is still the b side and like Floyd took it vs Oscar and pac took it vs Floyd, wilder should take it unless he doesn’t want it

                  Or wilder needs to make a proper statement saying he is fighting fury next and then will fight Joshua, everyone would be cool with that

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by lfc19titles View Post
                    If you read the link

                    The offer is assuming wilder beat fury, I’m not sure what it holds but wilder had a chance to evoke undisputed champ and he will earn much more than 15m

                    He is still the b side and like Floyd took it vs Oscar and pac took it vs Floyd, wilder should take it unless he doesn’t want it

                    Or wilder needs to make a proper statement saying he is fighting fury next and then will fight Joshua, everyone would be cool with that
                    Of course it assumed that Wilder won. There was no reason to fight Wilder if he lost.

                    However winning is not what was gonna change his negotiation power. It was drawing people. It was increased popularity. Recall Hearn talking about ppv tiers for his next offer. Over 1M buys 50-50, under 300k buys 80-20.

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                    • #80
                      Wilder should give Lewis a cut of the purse since he seems to have been doing all the negotiation for it.

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