Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis Backs Split, Not Flat Fee, For Joshua-Wilder Fight

[gully7]

I gotta end this convo based on that statement alone. Just know, there was no "bid" for Martin. Wilder had a mando after Spzilka rather than negotiate or try and set up a unification Martin's manager took the Joshua fight citing Wilders mando and the desire to not take a stay busy fight. He jumped on the big check Hearn waved and flew to the UK. What champ fights the challenger on his home turf if it's not solely for the check.

Wilder didn't have to take no mando, everyone knows unification take priority over mandatories. Add in the fact Wilder has the WBC in his pocket he easily could've fought Martin, Haymon could've paid more than Hearn too.

Had Wilder picked up that belt he'd be able to demand 50-50 against AJ now.

[Ake-Dawg]

Wilder didn't have to take no mando, everyone knows unification take priority over mandatories. Add in the fact Wilder has the WBC in his pocket he easily could've fought Martin, Haymon could've paid more than Hearn too.

Had Wilder picked up that belt he'd be able to demand 50-50 against AJ now.

Buddy check the history. Team Martin gave that vs excuse because they were selling to the first promoter who offered big money. Heck even Hearn has admitted to overpaying Martin to get the belt.

https://www.************.com/2016/02...t-commitments/

You're in stan territory now since you are pressed to make Parker more than he is and aren't knowledgeable on the history.

[gully7]

Buddy check the history. Team Martin gave that vs excuse because they were selling to the first promoter who offered big money. Heck even Hearn has admitted to overpaying Martin to get the belt.

https://www.************.com/2016/02...t-commitments/

You're in stan territory now since you are pressed to make Parker more than he is and aren't knowledgeable on the history.

Martin and Wilder had the same promoter, Haymon could've offered more than Hearn. Stop making excuses.

[Ake-Dawg]

Martin and Wilder had the same promoter, Haymon could've offered more than Hearn. Stop making excuses.

There is no excuse. I gave you the link with quotes from Martin manager. Not worth further discussion with you.

[champion4ever]

he is worth somewhere between 35 - 40%

hopefully he gets 40%

if he turns down 40%, then he walked away from that fight

Good post! However, I still say that 40 percent should be the starting point. Anything less will not get Team Wilder to the bargaining table.

[Raggamuffin]

yep..... that is a $100M fight, or close to it

like I said yesterday..... Wilder should be happy as a pig in shlt accepting 40% to fight Joshua in the UK..... that would be the very best deal he could possibly hope for..... can't see it happening, because Joshua clearly does not want that fight

they low-balled Wilder to kill the fight, so why would they suddenly offer him 40%? lol

if he gets a sniff of 35%, he should jump on it..... because 35% is much better than the $15M he already accepted..... but I hope he gets a better deal 37.5-40%

makes no diff to me, it aint my money, I just want to see the fight

They won't fight because Joshua is too much of a natural born ***** to fight Wilder. We're arguing about a fight that won't happen because of Joshuas cowardice and Hearns greed.

[Raggamuffin]

Good post! However, I still say that 40 percent should be the starting point. Anything less will not get Team Wilder to the bargaining table.

Well said. They won't fight because of Joshuas cowardice and Hearns greed.

[Raggamuffin]

You have shown no math! Explain the math Rag. How can Wilder make more money by not fighting Joshua? How will he force Joshua to fight him and give him 45%?

I have shown the math. Do you even know the total revenue that Wilder Fury made? I'm talking total revenue.

Wait.

I'm getting caught up in an argument with a guy who is talking Wilder Joshua knowing that the fight won't happen. The fight won't happen because of Joshuas cowardice and Hearns greed.

Tell you what Ake, until Joshua and Wilder start real negotiations instead of us arguing about what Wilder deserves......what we're arguing about is a moot point.

l told myself that I wouldn't get caught up arguing about what Wilder deserves and here I am......getting caught up in talking about what Wilder deserves. We can do that online all day long. I say over 40% and you say 40 or under.

[Raggamuffin]

nope, simple math dictates that Joshua deserves the lion share..... because he sells out Wembley and can pull numbers that Wilder could only dream about

it is a $100M fight..... and Wilder deserves 35-40%

imho, he should accept 35%, 37.5%, or 40%

if he refuses 40%, then he walked away from that fight and fcuked his career

Joshua is avoiding Wilder because he will not offer Wilder 35-40%..... but if the situation changes and Wilder refuses 40% (which I don't think he will) then he clearly has no interest in that fight

Wilder accepted $15M..... so he would accept 40%, or even 37.5%, imho..... he would be nuts not to, because Joshua is a far bigger draw than Wilder and he brings much more to the table

Let me remind you that the 15 mil that Wilder agreed to is over. Joshua fought Headvetkin. So throw that out of your head.

Joshua is avoiding Wilder because he is shook so stop lying and saying that won't fight him because he won't give him 35 or 40%. Joshua was shook long before 35-40% was even mentioned. The lunacy in your post is hilarious. Wilder's career will move on and he doesn't have the stigma of being a ****en coward like Joshua.

[Ake-Dawg]

I have shown the math. Do you even know the total revenue that Wilder Fury made? I'm talking total revenue.

Wait.

I'm getting caught up in an argument with a guy who is talking Wilder Joshua knowing that the fight won't happen. The fight won't happen because of Joshuas cowardice and Hearns greed.

Tell you what Ake, until Joshua and Wilder start real negotiations instead of us arguing about what Wilder deserves......what we're arguing about is a moot point.

l told myself that I wouldn't get caught up arguing about what Wilder deserves and here I am......getting caught up in talking about what Wilder deserves. We can do that online all day long. I say over 40% and you say 40 or under.

You gave zero math. You gave numbers for the Fury Wilder fight. You gave numbers for Joshua fights. You did ZERO math to explain why taking 40% of a $100M+ fight is foolish. Show me the MATH as to how Wilder is going to make $40M+ in one fight. Or two.