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    #51
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    How does it? Boxrec doesn't rank resume of active fighters you clown. Does Crawford have a better resume than Pacquiao?
    Pacquiao was cheated by his promoter for refusing to sign an extension, so Boxrec is ****ed up at welterweight unfortunately.

    With that said, Crawford would be the betting favorite over Pacquiao right now and Pacquiao's team has avoided that fight like the plague. So I would say Crawford deserves to be ranked over Pacquiao.

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      #52
      Originally posted by yammy25
      What specifically does a fighter need to do in order to gain a ranking in the WBC after being inactive for two years?
      Lobby to be ranked. Same thing with every other organization.

      You can't say it's outrageous for him to be #5 in one specific org when he's #4, #7 and #8 in the three most popular independent world rankings.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        When did Fury start fighting exclusively for the WBC?
        When he returned.


        Why would it cost Fury for the other orgs to rank him?
        Because lobbying for rankings is expensive. Promoters have to pay to go to conventions. Make donations to organizations. Fill their undercards with regional title fights, etc.

        Any favor Warren has with the other orgs, why would he waste it asking for Fury to be ranked when he knows Fury is fighting for the WBC and that he'd be removed from the other orgs for being unavailable anyway?

        This is the problem with you guys. You have no idea how this business works and you act like you know everything, so it's impossible to educate you.

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          #54
          According to Boxrec, Joshua already beat a better fighter than Wilder. Klitschko had over 500 points.
          According to Boxrec, Joshua just beat a better fighter than Fury. Povetkin is higher on the list. (Don't want to see you hyping it as a massive win if he beats Fury)
          According to Boxrec, Fury is only 1/3 of the fighter he was before becoming inactive.
          According to Boxrec, Whyte and Povetkin are better than Ortiz.

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            #55
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            Think about how ****ing ****** your argument is here. Seriously. You're suggesting Stiverne knew it contained a banned substance and took the product in front of VADA anyway and listed the product on his VADA forms anyway?
            I've never seen anything that states he listed superpharm on his VADA forms bit if he did then fair enough . I've always just heard he popped and then offered the excuse . When did he out this substance on his forms? Why did they not tell him it was banned.. why didn't they stop him when he took it Infront of them?

            If we are talking about ****** arguments.. he was I front of a VADA representative.. has access to VADA prohibited substance lost at any time.. yet took an over the counter supplement that clearly listed a prohibited substance as an ingredient? Jesus... All them dreadlocks must've had been pulling out his brain cells

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              #56
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              When he returned.




              Because lobbying for rankings is expensive. Promoters have to pay to go to conventions. Make donations to organizations. Fill their undercards with regional title fights, etc.

              Any favor Warren has with the other orgs, why would he waste it asking for Fury to be ranked when he knows Fury is fighting for the WBC and that he'd be removed from the other orgs for being unavailable anyway?

              This is the problem with you guys. You have no idea how this business works and you act like you know everything, so it's impossible to educate you.
              So you say fighters pay for their rankings. So why should we take any of them seriously? You discrediting your beloved WBC.

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                #57
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                Lobby to be ranked. Same thing with every other organization.

                You can't say it's outrageous for him to be #5 in one specific org when he's #4, #7 and #8 in the three most popular independent world rankings.
                I can when I think they're bollocks rankings aswell lol . He hasn't done anything since returning to warrant those rankings..and before it's mentioned , by the letter of the law or whatever..I don't think Wlad did either but I certainly feel his comeback against AJ offered validity of it moreso than what fury gave us against seferi and pianeta

                Notice I'm not a total **** and greened you for your Crawford PAC comment....

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by yammy25
                  I've never seen anything that states he listed superpharm on his VADA forms...
                  So it's my fault that you don't pay attention?

                  Throughout the investigative process, Stiverne has been extremely cooperative and 100% forthcoming. Stiverne informed the WBC that on the day of the Test, in order to facilitate urination, he took a dietary supplement called SUPERPHARM in front of the sample collector. He reported the ingestion of that supplement in the Declaration of Medication Use section of the doping control form he filled in connection with the Test.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    So you say fighters pay for their rankings. So why should we take any of them seriously? You discrediting your beloved WBC.
                    Did you start watching boxing yesterday or something?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by yammy25
                      I can when I think they're bollocks rankings aswell
                      If your position is that the entire world's opinion is wrong and you have the superior opinion, be my guest. I don't argue opinions. Fury is a consensus top 10 fighter, so being #5 in one specific org is very reasonable.


                      Notice I'm not a total **** and greened you for your Crawford PAC comment....
                      I have no idea what that means.

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