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    #21
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    That's a big **** up. That's like Fury fighting someone for the WBC title if Wilder pulls out for some reason.
    If Wilder failed a drug test, Fury would likely be allowed to fight the leading available contender for the title. They'd offer the fight to Whyte, he turn it down as usual, and the fight would likely go to Breazeale or Ortiz.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      They ****ed up. Stiverne put up his #1 contender status. Somehow Brezeale won it fighting someone else. That's pure bull****.
      And Povetkin put up his #1 contender status against Stiverne, resulting in Stiverne becoming mandatory when Povetkin failed another test.

      If you don't understand how boxing rankings work, I'm happy to explain. They don't work the way most fans think they do or should. Promoters and managers have to work the system that's in place and that's what they do.

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        #23
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        At what point will people finally stop recognizing the WBA?

        Will you reach out to Gilbert Mendoza to get more information for us?

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          #24
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          How is it the same? Povetkin actually fought in the damn fight. Stiverne didn't.
          Because you can't complain about Stiverne being allowed to put up his status and then hire Povetkin to do the same thing.

          Once Breazeale signs for that final eliminator, he has legal rights that you can't just take away. Same for David Price. Thankfully, Povetkin didn't fail another test, but if he did, we would have been stuck with David Price vs the leading available contender.

          The point is that you can't blame the WBC for Ortiz failing a test. And everything that happened with Breazeale was completely legitimate. And Hearn knows that. But he also knows he can lie to AJ's fans and they'll fall for it.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Pigeons
            Will you reach out to Gilbert Mendoza to get more information for us?
            What information is there to get? The WBA has always been ridiculous. When Mendoza's dad died, he was serious about cleaning things up. Just as Sulaiman was when his dad died.

            But Mendoza inherited a much bigger mess than Sulaiman did. Sulaiman's efforts to improve were met with applause and so it encouraged him to push further. Mendoza's efforts to improve were met with resistance and clearly he's given up.

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              #26
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              What information is there to get? The WBA has always been ridiculous. When Mendoza's dad died, he was serious about cleaning things up. Just as Sulaiman was when his dad died.

              But Mendoza inherited a much bigger mess than Sulaiman did. Sulaiman's efforts to improve were met with applause and so it encouraged him to push further. Mendoza's efforts to improve were met with resistance and clearly he's given up.

              If it's one of the other two people that post from this account that have the Mendoza connection, will you please reach out to them? I just want to hear it straight from the horse's mouth.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Pigeons
                If it's one of the other two people that post from this account that have the Mendoza connection, will you please reach out to them? I just want to hear it straight from the horse's mouth.
                What information do you want? Why Lovejoy is ranked? I've asked Berto many times. No reason given. Which is why I made this thread calling him out.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  Boxrec has Fury rated even higher than the WBC does, and Boxrec is ranking all the fighters in the world while the WBC is only ranking the fighters in the WBC.

                  So Boxrec is corrupt?
                  Boxrec simply adds points to a tally accumulated by a fighter ..all they did was add points to an inactive fury's tally... He was unified champion when he left and had more points than those currently taking top spots.

                  If you asked an actual person... Like the WBC for example and not a points system.. if being inactive for a period of years and then fighting two fighters both barely inside the top #150 of BOXREC is enough to warrant a top 5 ranking anywhere.. the answer is no.

                  Don't even try and compare.. you ****ing shill

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    And Povetkin put up his #1 contender status against Stiverne, resulting in Stiverne becoming mandatory when Povetkin failed another test.

                    If you don't understand how boxing rankings work, I'm happy to explain. They don't work the way most fans think they do or should. Promoters and managers have to work the system that's in place and that's what they do.
                    Yeah.. it wasn't like stiverne failed a test literally just before that in camp for the same fight..but only got a small fine for "first offence"

                    Crrrooookkkssss

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                      #30
                      What I want to know is when Eddie Hearn became ****** enough to publicly claim sulaiman have him written confirmation the breazeale fight wasn't a final elimination .

                      I'd also like to see where in the WBC rules an inactive fighter thats not on recess or emeritus gets to fight two 100+ ranked fighters in order to get even a top 15 ranking never mind a top 5 . Especially when it comes just in time for their champions voluntary defense

                      Neither of fury's last two bouts had WBC sanctioning and a representative of the body wasn't present.

                      So if he's got in on the technicality of being a former champion of another org then we might aswell just allow the WBC to let wilder fight the re-animated corpse of Ali
                      Last edited by yammy25; 10-01-2018, 01:09 AM.

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