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    #81
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Thank you for your opinion. I don't argue opinions. If you think AJ is the greatest fighter that ever lived, I have no problem with that.

    The issue is whether Wilder has only fought bums. If that were true, he wouldn't be #2 in Boxrec by a wide margin.

    If AJ had the greatest resume of any fighter that ever lived, that still wouldn't mean Wilder has only fought bums. He's far and away #2 by a wide margin. Just as AJ is far and away #1 by a wide margin.
    Not my opinion. Boxrecs. You hold boxrec in such high regard and treat it as fact, so i'm sure you agree.

    The Klitschko Joshua beat id by far better than Wilder he had over 500 points. Boxrec says so.
    Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 10-02-2018, 12:54 AM.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      You talk **** about fans while being a Wilder nuthugger and far worse than that a WBC nuthugger. Nuthugging an org is just plain weird.
      Lennox Lewis said today there should only be one belt in boxing, the WBC belt. Is he a "nut hugger." Is he "weird" for "nut hugging" an organization?

      I know you started watching boxing yesterday, but if you knew anything about the history of the sport, you'd know the WBC has always been the real belt.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        Not my opinion. Boxrecs. You hold boxrec in such high regard and treat it as fact, so i'm sure you agree.

        The Klitschko Joshua beat id by far better than Wilder he had over 500 points. Boxrec says so.
        Thank you for your opinion. You think Joshua is the best heavyweight. So do I. So why do you keep trying to pick a nonexistent fight?

        My argument is that Wilder is the clear #2, and wouldn't be #2 in boxrec by a wide margin if he'd only fought bums. We both know that'd be impossible.

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          #84
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          Lennox Lewis said today there should only be one belt in boxing, the WBC belt. Is he a "nut hugger." Is he "weird" for "nut hugging" an organization?

          I know you started watching boxing yesterday, but if you knew anything about the history of the sport, you'd know the WBC has always been the real belt.
          Their rankings are bought. They have no credibility. They are bull**** you weirdo. If you don't know that, then YOU don't know shit about boxing.

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            #85
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            Thank you for your opinion. You think Joshua is the best heavyweight. So do I. So why do you keep trying to pick a nonexistent fight?

            My argument is that Wilder is the clear #2, and wouldn't be #2 in boxrec by a wide margin if he'd only fought bums. We both know that'd be impossible.
            My argument is Boxrec says the Klitschko Joshua beat is better than Wilder. Do you agree or is boxrec wrong?

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              #86
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              Their rankings are bought. They have no credibility.
              Again, if you had started watching boxing before yesterday, you'd know the WBC is actually the only organization that hasn't had a bribery scandal. The only organization that wouldn't accept bribes. The IBF president went to prison for bribery. The WBA was exposed by Arum for an over arching widespread bribery ring. Worse, after the head of the WBA's bribery ring was banned by the WBA for life, he went and started the WBO. The WBO was literally founded by the outed bribery leader of the WBA.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                My argument is Boxrec says the Klitschko Joshua beat is better than Wilder. Do you agree or is boxrec wrong?
                Klitschko, even after the Fury loss, deserved to be held in higher regard than Wilder is now. Wilder still has to prove himself as the best. But you're still trying to pick a nonexistent fight. Because my only argument is that Wilder couldn't have become #2 if he'd only fought bums. Nothing you're saying is countering my position. You just keep trying to argue how great AJ is. Which is a waste of time because I agree with you.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  Klitschko, even after the Fury loss, deserved to be held in higher regard than Wilder is now. Wilder still has to prove himself as the best. But you're still trying to pick a nonexistent fight. Because my only argument is that Wilder couldn't have become #2 if he'd only fought bums. Nothing you're saying is countering my position. You just keep trying to argue how great AJ is. Which is a waste of time because I agree with you.
                  You didn't answer the question. You do that a lot.

                  Do you agree the Klitschko Joshua beat is better than Wilder?

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    You didn't answer the question. You do that a lot.

                    Do you agree the Klitschko Joshua beat is better than Wilder?
                    Your question didn't make any sense, so I answered the best I could, despite your flawed question.

                    Boxrec doesn't "say" Klitschko was better than Wilder, only that he was more deserving of a higher ranking based on in ring accomplishment. Just as Boxrec says Wilder, based on in ring accomplishment, is head and shoulders above everyone other than AJ. Which would be impossible if Wilder only fought bums. So clearly he doesn't only fight bums.

                    No, I don't think the Klitschko that AJ beat was better than Wilder is right now. But the AJ that Klitschko faced isn't as good as AJ is now. So AJ vs Wilder would be a really interesting fight. AJ deserves to be rated #1, but that doesn't mean he would win. They need to fight so we can find out who the best is.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      Your question didn't make any sense, so I answered the best I could, despite your flawed question.

                      Boxrec doesn't "say" Klitschko was better than Wilder, only that he was more deserving of a higher ranking based on in ring accomplishment. Just as Boxrec says Wilder, based on in ring accomplishment, is head and shoulders above everyone other than AJ. Which would be impossible if Wilder only fought bums. So clearly he doesn't only fight bums.

                      No, I don't think the Klitschko that AJ beat was better than Wilder is right now. But the AJ that Klitschko faced isn't as good as AJ is now. So AJ vs Wilder would be a really interesting fight. AJ deserves to be rated #1, but that doesn't mean he would win. They need to fight so we can find out who the best is.
                      Higher rating = better does it not?

                      Klitschko was better than Wilder according to boxrec. You don't agree. So is boxrec only evidence/proof when you agree?

                      According to boxrec Whyte has beaten more current top 20 HW's than Wilder, so how is he by far ahead?

                      Boxrec system is flawed. Keep beating bums and the points will rack up.

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