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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #61
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Did you start watching boxing yesterday or something?
    Fury is only ranked by WBC because he bought his ranking. How is that credible?

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      #62
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      Fury is only ranked by WBC because he bought his ranking. How is that credible?
      Every fighter ranked by every organization has a promoter or manager lobbying on their behalf. You don't get ranked out of thin air. You have to ask to be ranked and have someone argue your case. Promoters and managers spend a lot of money to establish relationships with the organizations and there are only so many fighters they can get ranked. Warren isn't going to waste time and money getting Fury ranked for belts he's not pursuing right now. That's not how boxing careers work.

      If you don't think the ranking process and world championship process used in professional boxing is credible, I agree with you. The entire set up of the sport is a sham. As it's always been for over a hundred years. Which seems like news to you. Which is why I wondered if you'd never seen boxing before.

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        #63
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        Every fighter ranked by every organization has a promoter or manager lobbying on their behalf. You don't get ranked out of thin air. You have to ask to be ranked and have someone argue your case. Promoters and managers spend a lot of money to establish relationships with the organizations and there are only so many fighters they can get ranked. Warren isn't going to waste time and money getting Fury ranked for belts he's not pursuing right now. That's not how boxing careers work.

        If you don't think the ranking process and world championship process used in professional boxing is credible, I agree with you. The entire set up of the sport is a sham. As it's always been for over a hundred years. Which seems like news to you. Which is why I wondered if you'd never seen boxing before.
        So the WBC rankings are as worthless as the rest. So stop ****ing defending them you ******.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          So the WBC rankings are as worthless as the rest. So stop ****ing defending them you ******.
          If I was the ******, I wouldn't have to explain all of this to you. It's not my fault you just started watching boxing and don't know how the sport works.

          The WBC rankings are clearly the most credible at heavyweight. The #5 fighters from the other three orgs are all lower in the Boxrec rankings than Fury is.

          This thread was started because the WBA now has the #233 fighter in the world in their top 15

          Look at the top 15 of the four orgs and the WBC's fighters consistently out rank the others. It's the most valuable belt and typically has the higher caliber contenders.

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            #65
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            If your position is that the entire world's opinion is wrong and you have the superior opinion, be my guest. I don't argue opinions. Fury is a consensus top 10 fighter, so being #5 in one specific org is very reasonable.




            I have no idea what that means.
            Not the entire world.. a very large portion of the boxing world and it's fan base are of the same opinion.. the good thing about fans are, they have no financial ties to the industry and have nothing to gain or lose by them.

            I take fan consensus much higher in validity than that of orgs and ranking bodies..or computerized systems .

            It means I have you a positive karma for something... You've been here for donkeys if previous accounts are to be believed yet you don't know about the green / red karma system ?

            No wonder I lose my marbles with you at times

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              #66
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              If I was the ******, I wouldn't have to explain all of this to you. It's not my fault you just started watching boxing and don't know how the sport works.

              The WBC rankings are clearly the most credible at heavyweight. The #5 fighters from the other three orgs are all lower in the Boxrec rankings than Fury is.

              This thread was started because the WBA now has the #233 fighter in the world in their top 15

              Look at the top 15 of the four orgs and the WBC's fighters consistently out rank the others. It's the most valuable belt and typically has the higher caliber contenders.
              That’s why I only use the alphabit rankings to see where a fighter is ranked with them. Means nothing as far as the fighters skill. I like the IBO rankings. Just sucks they have a belt

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                #67
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                So it's my fault that you don't pay attention?

                Throughout the investigative process, Stiverne has been extremely cooperative and 100% forthcoming. Stiverne informed the WBC that on the day of the Test, in order to facilitate urination, he took a dietary supplement called SUPERPHARM in front of the sample collector. He reported the ingestion of that supplement in the Declaration of Medication Use section of the doping control form he filled in connection with the Test.
                So he couldn't just use...I dunno .. water?

                He just so happened to have superpharm on him at the time? But that was the first time he took it?

                VADA or its testing rep there didn't say "woah hold on bermane... Don't take that random supplement you've just procured today on our visit to have a piss..it's banned. Use water. "

                Jesus Christ.

                He took it .. realising it was banned and that he'd pop for it anyway. Did he declare he'd been taking it previously throughout camp or did he simply magically conjure some superpharm after they'd turned up so he could piss . Since when was water not sufficient?

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  If I'm wrong, counter my argument. You can't, because you know I'm right. So instead you ignore my argument and attack me personally. Lame.
                  There is nothing to counter because they are most false. I attacked tour personality because you are fond of it and it's becoming a habit.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    If I was the ******, I wouldn't have to explain all of this to you. It's not my fault you just started watching boxing and don't know how the sport works.

                    The WBC rankings are clearly the most credible at heavyweight. The #5 fighters from the other three orgs are all lower in the Boxrec rankings than Fury is.

                    This thread was started because the WBA now has the #233 fighter in the world in their top 15

                    Look at the top 15 of the four orgs and the WBC's fighters consistently out rank the others. It's the most valuable belt and typically has the higher caliber contenders.
                    You can't say rankings that fighters pay for are credible. That is ******ed.

                    Back to you boxrec argument i see, well............

                    According to Boxrec, Joshua already beat a better fighter than Wilder. Klitschko had over 500 points.
                    According to Boxrec, Joshua just beat a better fighter than Fury. Povetkin is higher on the list. (Don't want to see you hyping it as a massive win if he beats Fury)
                    According to Boxrec, Fury is only 1/3 of the fighter he was before becoming inactive.
                    According to Boxrec, Whyte and Povetkin are better than Ortiz.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      If I was the ******, I wouldn't have to explain all of this to you. It's not my fault you just started watching boxing and don't know how the sport works.

                      The WBC rankings are clearly the most credible at heavyweight. The #5 fighters from the other three orgs are all lower in the Boxrec rankings than Fury is.

                      This thread was started because the WBA now has the #233 fighter in the world in their top 15

                      Look at the top 15 of the four orgs and the WBC's fighters consistently out rank the others. It's the most valuable belt and typically has the higher caliber contenders.
                      To the best of my knowledge, WBC has one of the worst rankings in the sport.

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