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    #31
    Originally posted by yammy25
    Boxrec simply adds points to a tally accumulated by a fighter
    You lose points in Boxrec for inactivity, can be removed, etc. Taking into account Fury's past, his inactivity and his return, he's #4 in the world right now. So to complain about his being #5 in one specific sanctioning body is hilarious.

    The WBA #5 is Boxrec #11. The IBF #5 is Boxrec #20. The WBO #5 is Boxrec #6.

    Which means the WBC has the most credible #5. Where are your posts complaining about the others?

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      #32
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      You lose points in Boxrec for inactivity, can be removed, etc. Taking into account Fury's past, his inactivity and his return, he's #4 in the world right now. So to complain about his being #5 in one specific sanctioning body is hilarious.

      The WBA #5 is Boxrec #11. The IBF #5 is Boxrec #20. The WBO #5 is Boxrec #6.

      Which means the WBC has the most credible #5. Where are your posts complaining about the others?
      Boxrec doesn't take into account that Fury was a fat mess and had to lose 100lb while inactive. Idiot.

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        #33
        Originally posted by yammy25
        Yeah.. it wasn't like stiverne failed a test literally just before that in camp for the same fight..but only got a small fine for "first offence"
        And? Povetkin also got a fine for his first offense. So the punishment was consistent. Povetkin only got suspended when he got caught cheating AGAIN.

        In Stiverne's case, he took an over the counter supplement, which he declared on his forms and took in front of VADA. So clearly he wasn't trying to hide anything. He was simply unaware of one of the ingredients.

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          #34
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          Hearn did the same exact thing. Povetkin putting his mandatory status on the line against David Price. What had David Price done to earn a final eliminator? Hearn brainwashes you guys into being outraged by Breazeale being allowed to have a final eliminator even though Hearn did the same exact thing with David Price.
          By your logic if Povetkin had pulled out; we could have had a price vs Dave allen fight for mandatory. That is effectively what happened for Breazeale.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            Boxrec doesn't take into account that Fury was a fat mess and had to lose 100lb while inactive. Idiot.
            And? He gained weight. Now he's lost it. Tons of fighters have gained weight between fights. You don't even know what your argument is. You just like to disagree with me because I constantly expose Eddie Hearn as a liar.

            The WBC has Fury #5. They're not ranking all the fighters in the world, only the fighters in the WBC. Boxrec ranks all the fighters in the world and has him #4. Ring has him #7. TBRB has him #8. To complain about him being #5 in the WBC is hilarious and just shows how desperate you guys are to criticize Wilder.

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              #36
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              You lose points in Boxrec for inactivity, can be removed, etc. Taking into account Fury's past, his inactivity and his return, he's #4 in the world right now. So to complain about his being #5 in one specific sanctioning body is hilarious.

              The WBA #5 is Boxrec #11. The IBF #5 is Boxrec #20. The WBO #5 is Boxrec #6.

              Which means the WBC has the most credible #5. Where are your posts complaining about the others?
              He had such a wide margin of points over anyone else currently ranked that he can settle straight back in. The same way Klitschko did when his fury rematch fell through.

              I do complain about rankings.. the IBF I don't complain about because whilst weak they follow their specific rules and don't deviate which allows for some unfortunately poor contenders.

              I fully agree that Lovejoy in the WBA as per your thread is a joke and that it stinks.. but none of the other orgs rank fury at all. None.. only the org that's placed him at number 5 just as his voluntary status for its champion comes about .

              As I stated before ..neither of his last two bouts had any kind of WBC recognition or sanction.. he hasn't faced anybody worthy of him gaining the status in that body that he has.

              Last I checked boxrec don't hand out world titles or widely acclaimed recognition as world champion or status of such.

              If he has gained this position by virtue of being a former champion as per the WBC "rules" then there would be no need to place him in a ranking.. and if a ranking is necessary even with the former champion status then I'll dig up Ali's corpse and wilder can fight that too..

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                #37
                Originally posted by Kezzer
                By your logic
                First of all, it's not my logic. I don't make these decisions. I don't make the rules. I'm just explaining to you how things work and pointing out that Hearn did the same thing you're complaining about.


                if Povetkin had pulled out; we could have had a price vs Dave allen fight for mandatory.
                Allen isn't ranked by the WBA, so I have no idea what you're talking about. If Povetkin flunked a test, Price would have been entitled to face the leading available contender. The WBA would go through their rankings and offer the fight to every fight in order until someone said yes.

                Molina got the fight because everyone in front of him said no, including Whyte.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  And? He gained weight. Now he's lost it. Tons of fighters have gained weight between fights. You don't even know what your argument is. You just like to disagree with me because I constantly expose Eddie Hearn as a liar.

                  The WBC has Fury #5. They're not ranking all the fighters in the world, only the fighters in the WBC. Boxrec ranks all the fighters in the world and has him #4. Ring has him #7. TBRB has him #8. To complain about him being #5 in the WBC is hilarious and just shows how desperate you guys are to criticize Wilder.
                  I'm criticising your use of Boxrec to back up your opinion. You seem to be doing it increasingly.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    And? Povetkin also got a fine for his first offense. So the punishment was consistent. Povetkin only got suspended when he got caught cheating AGAIN.

                    In Stiverne's case, he took an over the counter supplement, which he declared on his forms and took in front of VADA. So clearly he wasn't trying to hide anything. He was simply unaware of one of the ingredients.
                    Aaahh yes.. the old over the counter supplement.

                    Because a pro boxer and his camp always by ephedrine replacement fat burners without looking at the box .

                    Superpharm clearly states it's a DMAA product. Stiverne was talking waffle..

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      First of all, it's not my logic. I don't make these decisions. I don't make the rules. I'm just explaining to you how things work and pointing out that Hearn did the same thing you're complaining about.




                      Allen isn't ranked by the WBA, so I have no idea what you're talking about. If Povetkin flunked a test, Price would have been entitled to face the leading available contender. The WBA would go through their rankings and offer the fight to every fight in order until someone said yes.

                      Molina got the fight because everyone in front of him said no, including Whyte.
                      Whyte never said no. He was never given the opportunity despite what you say/repeat. Whyte had only been talked about at other points in time.

                      It's quite clear, however you want to put it - that had Povetkin pulled out that price wouldn't have deserved a shot at anyone else. He barely deserved it at Povetkin either - he was simply extra marketing tool in the U.K.


                      Anyway enough about your defending of everything bad about wilder or WBC and go hype up your fury boy fight

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