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    #41
    Originally posted by yammy25
    He had such a wide margin of points over anyone else currently ranked that he can settle straight back in. The same way Klitschko did when his fury rematch fell through.
    And? Again, your complaint doesn't make any sense. Fury was held in very high regard and now that he's back, he's #5 in the WBC. Which only ranks the fighters in the WBC. To complain about that ranking is hilarious since it's lower than his Boxrec ranking. Where were your posts *****ing about Klitschko being ranked after a long layoff? Especially since he was coming off a loss, unlike Fury who is still undefeated.


    none of the other orgs rank fury at all. None.. only the org that's placed him at number 5 just as his voluntary status for its champion comes about .
    If you don't understand how rankings work, I'm happy to teach you. Orgs rank fighters fighting for their org and lobbying to be ranked by their org. Orgs aren't ranking the world. They're ranking their org. The other orgs don't rank Fury because Fury is fighting exclusively for the WBC right now. Getting fighters ranked is expensive. Fury is specifically pursuing the WBC title right now, so why would Warren waste his time seeking rankings in the other orgs when fighting for the WBC title is going to immediately get him removed from the rankings of the other orgs anyway? You're not making any sense.

    You're a fan. It's not your job to understand this stuff. And these things don't work the way fans assume. If you want to learn, great, I'm happy to help. If you're going to be a jerk, then you can just sit there and continue to be ignorant and nobody is going to want to help you.

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    • TheCleaner
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      #42
      Interesting, but I am aware that people get rankings by having their fights sanctioned by orgs for minor belts to get up in their specific rankings.That's then up to promoters, managers and of course fighters as I imagine some are less expensive than others and press the chance to box for a belt on a smaller show. Look at yarde, no British/Commonwealth/ebu euro, or 'traditional route' but is no 2 wbo as he has been fighting and defending firstly their euro belt after he won southern area, and now is inter continental champ. There's a guy ahead of him in rankings though that never boxed for any wbo belt.. But, the guy he last beat was wbo North America champ, so status of beaten opponents must carry weight even though the fighter who beat them may not have paid any sanctioning fees (which is no doubt discouraged).

      #complicated and I imagine orgs hate having a fully a unified undisputed champ because the carrot of 'box for our minor belts to get a world title shot' becomes invalid if you have to still get in line with another 3 guys who all also have minor belts from the other orgs

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        #43
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        I'm criticising your use of Boxrec to back up your opinion. You seem to be doing it increasingly.
        Because it's the easiest way to expose resume myths. Trolls like you don't have a counter. So I'll bring it up every time.

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          #44
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          Because it's the easiest way to expose resume myths. Trolls like you don't have a counter. So I'll bring it up every time.
          How does it? Boxrec doesn't rank resume of active fighters you clown. Does Crawford have a better resume than Pacquiao?

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            #45
            Originally posted by Kezzer
            Whyte never said no.
            Yes he did. He had a good reason to, he didn't want to pull out of an upcoming fight to face Breazeale on short notice. I'm not blaming him for saying no. But he did say no. You're lying.


            He was never given the opportunity despite what you say/repeat. Whyte had only been talked about at other points in time.
            Again, you're lying. WBC is legally obligated to go through their rankings in order. They can only offer the fight to Molina after the higher ranked fighters say no.


            It's quite clear, however you want to put it - that had Povetkin pulled out that price wouldn't have deserved a shot at anyone else. He barely deserved it at Povetkin either - he was simply extra marketing tool in the U.K.
            I agree with you. But the point is that Hearn acted like the WBC did some horrible thing even though Hearn went and did the same exact thing. Where is the outrage? Stay consistent.

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              #46
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              That's a cop out. Someone can **** a kid and someone can steal a loaf of bread, and you can't just disregard them as both being "flaws."




              No, they actually didn't. You just believe Eddie Hearn's ridiculous brainwashing.

              There is no saga. Stiverne agreed to put his mandatory status up against Breazeale. Stiverne got bumped back to the main event, allowing Breazeale to face the highest available contender.

              Whyte was offered a final eliminator on multiple occasions. Against Breazeale. Against Ortiz. He said no every time. That's not a saga. That's Whyte turning down fights and then complaining that he wasn't magically named the mandatory.
              I didn't expect less from. You must come out with a defence provide it has something to do with wilder, finkel and WBC.

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                #47
                Originally posted by yammy25
                Aaahh yes.. the old over the counter supplement.

                Because a pro boxer and his camp always by ephedrine replacement fat burners without looking at the box .

                Superpharm clearly states it's a DMAA product. Stiverne was talking waffle..
                Think about how ****ing ****** your argument is here. Seriously. You're suggesting Stiverne knew it contained a banned substance and took the product in front of VADA anyway and listed the product on his VADA forms anyway?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  And? Again, your complaint doesn't make any sense. Fury was held in very high regard and now that he's back, he's #5 in the WBC. Which only ranks the fighters in the WBC. To complain about that ranking is hilarious since it's lower than his Boxrec ranking. Where were your posts *****ing about Klitschko being ranked after a long layoff? Especially since he was coming off a loss, unlike Fury who is still undefeated.




                  If you don't understand how rankings work, I'm happy to teach you. Orgs rank fighters fighting for their org and lobbying to be ranked by their org. Orgs aren't ranking the world. They're ranking their org. The other orgs don't rank Fury because Fury is fighting exclusively for the WBC right now. Getting fighters ranked is expensive. Fury is specifically pursuing the WBC title right now, so why would Warren waste his time seeking rankings in the other orgs when fighting for the WBC title is going to immediately get him removed from the rankings of the other orgs anyway? You're not making any sense.

                  You're a fan. It's not your job to understand this stuff. And these things don't work the way fans assume. If you want to learn, great, I'm happy to help. If you're going to be a jerk, then you can just sit there and continue to be ignorant and nobody is going to want to help you.
                  Okay just answer me this... What specifically does a fighter need to do in order to gain a ranking in the WBC after being inactive for two years?

                  Forget seferi and pianeta for now.. what exclusively by their rules does a fighter need to do to garner a top 15 placement.. let alone a top 5?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    And? Again, your complaint doesn't make any sense. Fury was held in very high regard and now that he's back, he's #5 in the WBC. Which only ranks the fighters in the WBC. To complain about that ranking is hilarious since it's lower than his Boxrec ranking. Where were your posts *****ing about Klitschko being ranked after a long layoff? Especially since he was coming off a loss, unlike Fury who is still undefeated.




                    If you don't understand how rankings work, I'm happy to teach you. Orgs rank fighters fighting for their org and lobbying to be ranked by their org. Orgs aren't ranking the world. They're ranking their org. The other orgs don't rank Fury because Fury is fighting exclusively for the WBC right now. Getting fighters ranked is expensive. Fury is specifically pursuing the WBC title right now, so why would Warren waste his time seeking rankings in the other orgs when fighting for the WBC title is going to immediately get him removed from the rankings of the other orgs anyway? You're not making any sense.

                    You're a fan. It's not your job to understand this stuff. And these things don't work the way fans assume. If you want to learn, great, I'm happy to help. If you're going to be a jerk, then you can just sit there and continue to be ignorant and nobody is going to want to help you.
                    When did Fury start fighting exclusively for the WBC? Why would it cost Fury for the other orgs to rank him?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                      I didn't expect less from. You must come out with a defence provide it has something to do with wilder, finkel and WBC.
                      If I'm wrong, counter my argument. You can't, because you know I'm right. So instead you ignore my argument and attack me personally. Lame.

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