SO did wilder duck Whyte?

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Parker struggled with Andy Ruiz. Parker struggled with Hughie Fury. Parker's claim to fame is winning a vacant version of the least respected title against low level competition in a fight where he likely wouldn't have gotten the decision if he hadn't been at home.

Look at Parker's boxrec points and Whyte's boxrec points compared to Wilder's and try to tell me Wilder is the one not fighting live bodies.

That's what's so ridiculous about all you Wilder haters. Just because AJ has done more, you act like Wilder has done nothing. AJ is the undisputed #1 and Wilder is the undisputed #2, but you guys talk like Wilder is the undisputed #200. It's ludicrous and makes it hard to take anything you say seriously.

Again, if Wilder was fighting low level competition, he wouldn't be #2 in boxrec by a wide margin. Boxrec doesn't take belts into account. It's all just level of competition.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought Ruiz won.

[joseph5620]

For what it’s worth I do think he ducked Whyte but for good reason. Whyte is a dangerous opponent and he probably can’t gain (other than financially) from the fight?

Joshua won in 5 rounds? So at most he could only better him.
Whyte is probably underrated, particularly because he has a loss against his name , and is less known in America.
Would whyte cause a lot of trouble? He wobbled Joshua, beat chisora taking some big hits (and has since similarly taken hits from Parker) - but only Joshua’s combo has knocked him down in strong fashion.

In summary I think wilder should beat Whyte but would he get he full credit ? Im not sure he would and the risk probably doesn’t Warrant the reward. Now , since Whyte has beat Parker maybe that changes? Could he be a Ppv in uk against Whyte now - almost certainly - so a even bigger payday on offer. I would argue it would sell far more in the uk than fury would against wilder; but less popular in america

He fought Ortiz who is far more dangerous than Whyte So no. He's not ducking Whyte. That's laughable. He wants bigger fights and he got one with Fury who's also a bigger threat than Whyte. Nobody is ducking Whyte.

[Madison Boxing]

He fought Ortiz who is far more dangerous than Whyte So no. He's not ducking Whyte. That's laughable. He wants bigger fights and he got one with Fury who's also a bigger threat than Whyte. Nobody is ducking Whyte.

whytes resume is considerably better than ortiz's

[evets]

WHyte could not only couldn't put away a short notice Helenius but looked bad as well.

[Madison Boxing]

And Wilder would’ve been next if he beat Ortiz but as soon as he saw that he had to go thru Ortiz to fight Wilder he ran for the hills and fought Parker who has a basic offense and was coming off a loss!

People say oh well Parker gives him more money and I say yes, less risk and more reward just what AJ has been doing since Klitschko!

Whyte is gearing up to fight Chisora again but yet we wonder why Ortiz doesn’t have a stellar resume!

It’s hard to have a good CV when other top contenders or champions don’t want to fight you and prove they’re mettle!

Wilder did while everyone acts like the man don’t exist or refuse to fight him!

when has ortiz ever proved hes above parkers level

[Tyistall]

You're lying. If Wilder fought 39 bums, he wouldn't be #2 on boxrec by a wide margin.

Cong**** to AJ. He has a great resume and is #1 for a reason. But there are thousands and thousands of fighters in the world. Wilder is the clear #2, which would be impossible if he fought 39 bums. So clearly you're lying.

Since you are so at answering (wrongly) questions, answer this. Why would Wilder fight Fury and not Whyte if the Whyte fight would give him more money and a bigger name in the UK? Why did Wilder fight Ortiz (who was a drug cheat) but refused to fight Povetkin who cheated and then had his name cleared? Why would Wilder fight Fury with no venue, date or contract but not AJ claiming there was no venue? Why didn't Wilder fight Klitschko...either of them? Why hasn't Wilder fought ANY of the top 24 in the world right now except Ortiz, who is almost 40 and on heart medication? Wilder has been a pro since 2008, thats ten years, and he has only fought 2 top ten guys. That's pathetic at best. 7 title defenses and he hasn't sold out one venue yet...but he wants 50/50 with AJ who is on PPV and has fought in front of 300k in his last 4 fight? How about you answer any of these questions. And don't do your usual which is to turn them around like a women, answer them like a man for once

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Why would Wilder fight Fury and not Whyte if the Whyte fight would give him more money and a bigger name in the UK?

False premise. He'll make more against Fury than he would against Whyte. Further, Wilder is trying to raise his profile in the US, not the UK, and Fury is a much bigger name in the US than Whyte. Whyte is completely unknown here.

Why did Wilder fight Ortiz (who was a drug cheat) but refused to fight Povetkin who cheated and then had his name cleared?

False premise. Wilder was willing to fight Povetkin, but the WBC said no. Povetkin didn't have his name cleared, he actually cheated yet again. The WBC cleared Ortiz, not Povetkin. Stiverne only became the mandatory because Povetkin was caught cheating in the lead up to the interim title fight.

Why would Wilder fight Fury with no venue, date or contract but not AJ claiming there was no venue?

False premise. There's no problem agreeing to a fight without a date or venue IF you put in writing that the fight will be next with no interim fights. Wilder's term sheet to AJ for the 50 million offer said the fight must be next, no interim fights. Hearn refused to put in his offer to Wilder any language whatsoever that would guarantee the fight next.

Why didn't Wilder fight Klitschko...either of them?

Pretty ****** question. By the time Wilder was mandatory, Vitali had already been retired for three years. As for Wladimir, he'd already committed to fighting Jennings before Wilder fought Stiverne. Wilder and Wladimir had the same manager, but fought for competing networks. Finkel's plan was to make the fight in 2016 once Wladimir was free from his HBO deal. Unfortunately, Wladimir was upset by Fury and Finkel's plan was ruined. Kind of hard for Wilder to unify when Wladimir loses all of his titles the same year Wilder won his.

Why hasn't Wilder fought ANY of the top 24 in the world right now except Ortiz, who is almost 40 and on heart medication?

Pretty ****** question. If Wilder's competition was so poor, he wouldn't be #2 in Boxrec by a wide margin. Wilder wins his fights be devastating knockout and many of his KO victims during his title reign have never been the same again.

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whytes resume is considerably better than ortiz's

That's a lie. They have very similar Boxrec rankings. If you want to say Whyte has the better resume, no problem, but considerably better? No, the numbers don't show that.

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when has ortiz ever proved hes above parkers level

Ortiz is higher in the Boxrec ratings, so he's proven more. But separate from what's been proven, every major expert rates Ortiz higher than Parker and Ortiz would be the clear betting favorite if they fought. Ortiz also just completely obliterated a guy who easily went the distance with Parker.

[Madison Boxing]

That's a lie. They have very similar Boxrec rankings. If you want to say Whyte has the better resume, no problem, but considerably better? No, the numbers don't show that.

no its not a lie, its considerably better.