SO did wilder duck Whyte?

[Madison Boxing]

Ortiz is higher in the Boxrec ratings, so he's proven more. But separate from what's been proven, every major expert rates Ortiz higher than Parker and Ortiz would be the clear betting favorite if they fought. Ortiz also just completely obliterated a guy who easily went the distance with Parker.

how on earth has he proven more, tell me who hes beat....

[Jkp]

Ive never said it isn’t. It’s hard to gauge Ortiz really because he hasn’t fought anyone either, but as you can see from my previous post generally wilder has been taking on pretty weak opposition last several years so Ortiz was a huge step up from that. Fury is a good fight, I just wish fury had been able to have at least a decent level opponent first; even if wilder wins it will be hard to give him full credit in the circumstances.

In order to build up fight with Joshua, even if it means delaying the fight, it would be good to see wilder take on a couple more higher end rankings:

At least one of:

Whyte
Parker
Povetkin

Then at least one of the next tier:
Miller
Brezeale
Takam (his ranking looks pretty low but solid enough)

As an example if he came into a fight with AJ on the back of wins over Ortiz, fury, povetkin and Miller - you could sell the fight far more (partially because you could also do some fight comparisons of same opponents) and wilder could argue a higher % far more convincingly.

"Building up the fight" #excuse 23.

AJ is decreasing his fan base and the credibility of the wilder fight the longer he drags this out.

[N/A]

no its not a lie, its considerably better.

Then why are their boxrec rankings so close?

[N/A]

how on earth has he proven more, tell me who hes beat....

You can go to boxrec yourself. The numbers don't lie.

[Kezzer]

"Building up the fight" #excuse 23.

AJ is decreasing his fan base and the credibility of the wilder fight the longer he drags this out.

Really? Wilder has been about twice has long yet Joshua has been fighting the elite of the division far more frequently. Nobody can really have a argument about AJ credibility as it stands with his resume. His last two fights were both against top3 in the world at the time.

[N/A]

Nobody can really have a argument about AJ credibility as it stands with his resume. His last two fights were both against top3 in the world at the time.

He's never faced a consensus top 3 fighter in his life, let alone his last two fights.

Joseph Parker was #7 in boxrec when he faced AJ. Parker's only big "win" was Andy Ruiz, a hometown decision against a fighter who had never accomplished anything either.

[Kezzer]

He's never faced a consensus top 3 fighter in his life, let alone his last two fights.

Joseph Parker was #7 in boxrec when he faced AJ. Parker's only big "win" was Andy Ruiz, a hometown decision against a fighter who had never accomplished anything either.

So after all your posts defending wilder and his resume full of bums; your suggesting Joshua's isn't that strong? Your starting to come across more deluded rather than just full of pure bias over last few weeks.

Step back for a moment and smell the coffee.

[Laligalaliga]

His 2018 is a higher level of competition than AJ's 2018, in both Boxrec and TBRB, yet you claim he's avoiding all live bodies.

Even though both 2018 fights are VOLUNTARIES. Which means he went out of his way to face tougher competition than anybody else in his division.

So, when you take such an extreme position, a position which is the exact opposite of reality, you once again expose yourself as the absolute idiot that you are.

You always like to play smart all the time.. I asked you a direct simple question.

[Laligalaliga]

And Wilder would’ve been next if he beat Ortiz but as soon as he saw that he had to go thru Ortiz to fight Wilder he ran for the hills and fought Parker who has a basic offense and was coming off a loss!

People say oh well Parker gives him more money and I say yes, less risk and more reward just what AJ has been doing since Klitschko!

Whyte is gearing up to fight Chisora again but yet we wonder why Ortiz doesn’t have a stellar resume!

It’s hard to have a good CV when other top contenders or champions don’t want to fight you and prove they’re mettle!

Wilder did while everyone acts like the man don’t exist or refuse to fight him!

Unfortunately wilder didn't accept the challenge rather he sent wbc to do the biddings for him so whyte can be made 2nd mandatory, therefore will have to wait for another 2yrs after beeazeale.

He would have been a fool to follow that route.

[N/A]

So after all your posts defending wilder and his resume full of bums; your suggesting Joshua's isn't that strong?

Can you read? I've said over and over and over that Joshua has the strongest resume. Wilder has the second strongest. There are thousands of heavyweights. So AJ fans look ridiculous when they insist Wilder has a terrible resume, even though he has the best resume of anyone other than AJ.

Cong**** to AJ for being #1. Nobody is dis*****g that. There has to be a #2 though and Wilder is #2. So think about how foolish he is when you try to tear apart his resume instead of the thousands of others that have worse resumes than him.