SO did wilder duck Whyte?

[Jkp]

Really? Wilder has been about twice has long yet Joshua has been fighting the elite of the division far more frequently. Nobody can really have a argument about AJ credibility as it stands with his resume. His last two fights were both against top3 in the world at the time.

No one cares about the past, they want to see the 2 top ranked fighters fighting. Not hear 100 excuses why they cant fight. And argue about who has the worst previous opponents.

Each excuse eddie throws out is eating away at AJ's credibility and fan base.

[joseph5620]

whytes resume is considerably better than ortiz's

Ortiz is considerably better than Whyte. That's why Whyte didn't want to fight him.

[Tyistall]

False premise. He'll make more against Fury than he would against Whyte. Further, Wilder is trying to raise his profile in the US, not the UK, and Fury is a much bigger name in the US than Whyte. Whyte is completely unknown here.




False premise. Wilder was willing to fight Povetkin, but the WBC said no. Povetkin didn't have his name cleared, he actually cheated yet again. The WBC cleared Ortiz, not Povetkin. Stiverne only became the mandatory because Povetkin was caught cheating in the lead up to the interim title fight.




False premise. There's no problem agreeing to a fight without a date or venue IF you put in writing that the fight will be next with no interim fights. Wilder's term sheet to AJ for the 50 million offer said the fight must be next, no interim fights. Hearn refused to put in his offer to Wilder any language whatsoever that would guarantee the fight next.




Pretty ****** question. By the time Wilder was mandatory, Vitali had already been retired for three years. As for Wladimir, he'd already committed to fighting Jennings before Wilder fought Stiverne. Wilder and Wladimir had the same manager, but fought for competing networks. Finkel's plan was to make the fight in 2016 once Wladimir was free from his HBO deal. Unfortunately, Wladimir was upset by Fury and Finkel's plan was ruined. Kind of hard for Wilder to unify when Wladimir loses all of his titles the same year Wilder won his.




Pretty ****** question. If Wilder's competition was so poor, he wouldn't be #2 in Boxrec by a wide margin. Wilder wins his fights be devastating knockout and many of his KO victims during his title reign have never been the same again.

So, you just basically turn everything around and say that the facts are nor facts, got it. You are inbred. Povetkin actually sued Wilder and won 4-5 million off him because Wilder ducked him so badly. Fury is not a big name in the US either so that argument is invalid too. Whether Wilder is ranked #2 or #20, it doesn't matter, he STILL hasn't fought any guys in the top 24 except Ortiz, who almost KOed him. His level of competition is not poor, it's pathetic. Even now, he's fighting Fury when Fury is not ready to fight at a world level. And really? The 50 million email again? How many times does someone have to tell you that the offer was not real. You don't send an email offering 50 million and not have a meeting on it. That's ridiculous at best. And for idiots like you to believe it is even MORE ridiculous hahahaha. They say you get paid to post on Wilder's behalf on here. Well, those people should get their money back, you're ******ed

[N/A]

So, you just basically turn everything around and say that the facts are nor facts, got it.

You're the one posting false information. If you want to try to refute anything I wrote, be my guest.

Povetkin actually sued Wilder and won 4-5 million off him because Wilder ducked him so badly.

That's a lie. Wilder sued and won the money, then Povetkin appealed and got it reversed.

Fury is not a big name in the US either so that argument is invalid too.

He's a much bigger name than Whyte. Whyte is completely unknown here. Fury has confronted Wilder in the ring after a Wilder fight. Fury's win over Klitschko was shown here and was a huge news story. Fury did a ton of major US media after winning the titles and also went viral when he went crazy and vacated the titles.

His level of competition is not poor, it's pathetic.

If you were telling the truth, it'd be impossible for him to be #2 in boxrec and have almost twice as many points as Povetkin. If Wilder's competition is pathetic, that means EVERYBODY's competition is pathetic, except for AJ's, which would be a very convenient argument.

The 50 million email again? How many times does someone have to tell you that the offer was not real.

Even Hearn says the offer was real. Everybody has confirmed the offer. The only people still denying it are lunatic AJ fans.

[LacedUp]

you cant duck a lower ranked boxer to chase a higher ranked one..Wilder just did not entertain Hearn's games

Why don't you say that in the ******ed Wilder fanboy threads who claim Joshua ducks Ortiz

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Why don't you say that in the ******ed Wilder fanboy threads who claim Joshua ducks Ortiz

Hearn clearly wanted to delay Ortiz as long as possible. Ortiz did what had to be done to become mandatory whereas Whyte ducked Ortiz and refused the final eliminator.

[Tyistall]

You're the one posting false information. If you want to try to refute anything I wrote, be my guest.




That's a lie. Wilder sued and won the money, then Povetkin appealed and got it reversed.




He's a much bigger name than Whyte. Whyte is completely unknown here. Fury has confronted Wilder in the ring after a Wilder fight. Fury's win over Klitschko was shown here and was a huge news story. Fury did a ton of major US media after winning the titles and also went viral when he went crazy and vacated the titles.




If you were telling the truth, it'd be impossible for him to be #2 in boxrec and have almost twice as many points as Povetkin. If Wilder's competition is pathetic, that means EVERYBODY's competition is pathetic, except for AJ's, which would be a very convenient argument.




Even Hearn says the offer was real. Everybody has confirmed the offer. The only people still denying it are lunatic AJ fans.

Oh my bad, so Fury fighting two bums and being rated #4 on boxrec is OK with you????? That should kill your extire argument on Wilder but I'm sure it won't right? You will see how unknown Fury is here when the Wilder vs Fury fight bombs both live and on PPV. but even then I'm sure you will turn that around too right? Wilder is the heavyweight version of Adonis Stevenson now and idiots likr yourself are believing the hype. Sad. But hey man, if you want to keep following a bum beater, knock yourself out. But you are a ******, ****** man for doing that hahahaha. Or maybe you are a woman??

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You will see how unknown Fury is here when the Wilder vs Fury fight bombs both live and on PPV.

However many tickets or PPV the fight sells, it'll be much more than Wilder vs Whyte would have sold. The American public knows Wilder, Joshua and Fury. That's it. A Whyte fight would garner less interest than the Stiverne rematch.

But you are a ******, ****** man

You posted a ton of false info. I proved you wrong over and over. So you attack me personally since you can't attack my argument.

[Tyistall]

However many tickets or PPV the fight sells, it'll be much more than Wilder vs Whyte would have sold. The American public knows Wilder, Joshua and Fury. That's it. A Whyte fight would garner less interest than the Stiverne rematch.




You posted a ton of false info. I proved you wrong over and over. So you attack me personally since you can't attack my argument.

Dumbest thing I've heard you say so far. The Whyte vs Parker fight wasn't even a fight for any belts, yet it was PPV and they both made more than Wilder has ever made in a fight. If Wilder fought in the UK against Whyte, he could come home with 10 million or more after PPV. That's 5 times what he will make for the Fury fight, idiot. Also, I have yet to post any false info dumbass, so get your facts straight. Just because I'm talking about your lover Wilder doesn't mean I am wrong. FACT: Wilder has fought 1 guy in the top 24 in the world. FACT: Wilder has never been on PPV in his 40 fights. FACT: AJ has 4 belts and has fought 4 guys in the top 10 right now. This ****s on Wilder's resume like a fat woman on taco Tuesday. FACT: Wilder has a contract to fight AJ with him right now that he is refusing to sign. THAT'S DUCKING DUMBASS. FACT: Wilder texted Whyte saying he will not fight him for two years. That's ducking. Pull your head out of Wilder's ass and come up for fresh air and you will see that your hero is a protected ****ing fraud just like Adonis Stevenson is.

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The Whyte vs Parker fight wasn't even a fight for any belts, yet it was PPV and they both made more than Wilder has ever made in a fight.

You have no idea what Wilder has made in a fight, so right off the bat we know you're lying. Whyte vs. Parker wasn't even shown in the US. Again, Whyte is completely unknown here. It's as if he doesn't exist. Fury has gotten a lot of exposure in the US, Whyte hasn't.

If Wilder fought in the UK against Whyte, he could come home with 10 million or more after PPV.

You have no idea if that's true and even if it was, Wilder is guaranteed more than that for the Fury fight.

That's 5 times what he will make for the Fury fight

You're lying. Wilder will make wayyyyyy more than 2 million for the Fury fight. You're literally just making numbers up.