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  • #71
    Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
    I just read that If Joyce wins this weekend, he will be on the Fury/Wilder card.

    Maybe we will see Ortiz/Joyce? Not like Joyce has the time to come up slow like most new pros do...
    I can't see how Ortiz's people would take that fight, tiny money with high risk. Makes no sense to take that fight, i imagine it will be another mismatch while Ortiz waits for another title shot...his management surely know taking an L against a contender or a 5 fight novice like Joyce is far too dangerous considering his age, he would have to be rebuild and work his way back up the rankings which at 40...or w/e his real age is, is not feasible.

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    • #72
      I heard Breezy Al is looking for a dance partner.

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      • #73
        Joe Joyce would massacre Luis Ortiz. If Ortiz is thinking about retirement, that's the only way I see him accepting that fight.

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        • #74
          Nobody wants any smoke with ortiz, hes a 58 year old cuban bum, why wont anyone fight him????????

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          • #75
            Originally posted by mlac View Post
            I can't see how Ortiz's people would take that fight, tiny money with high risk. Makes no sense to take that fight, i imagine it will be another mismatch while Ortiz waits for another title shot...his management surely know taking an L against a contender or a 5 fight novice like Joyce is far too dangerous considering his age, he would have to be rebuild and work his way back up the rankings which at 40...or w/e his real age is, is not feasible.
            His real age is his real age man. He wasn’t 13 in the amateurs lol

            But I know what you’re saying. Obviously take it with a grain of salt, I’ll just play devils advocate though and say that Ortiz’s people may also know he doesn’t have much time, and that’s a huge showing on a PPV card. Even though Ortiz is ranked #3 HW right now, he’s unranked by the IBO, WBA and IBF...so anything is possible

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            • #76
              I could see it being like Washington, Travis Kaufman or Charles Martin (if he is ready and wants it) or an outside guy like Takam or Duahaupus could also work.

              Nothing major but a fight to keep him in the mix.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                The fight actually makes no sense whatsoever. Breazeale has a guaranteed WBC title shot. Why would he risk that against such a dangerous fight? And why would Haymon consolidate two mandatories into one? He's moved these guys perfectly in the rankings and then he's just going to waste all of that work?
                When I'm talking about fights that make sense, I'm not talking about politics, or what excuses people will have to avoid the fight. The fight makes sense for all the reasons I said, it makes sense for boxing the sport, it makes sense for the PPV event, and it makes sense for the fans. Why do I care that Breazeale wants to hide behind a mando position? How does a fighter hiding behind a mando position make sense? Since when do fans care about what managers want to do with titles?

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                  I don't see anybody stepping up to fight him. Who exactly has he avoided?
                  He would have just fought AJ as the WBA mando if he hadn't jumped ship on Hearn and gone after Wilder instead.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
                    I just read that If Joyce wins this weekend, he will be on the Fury/Wilder card.

                    Maybe we will see Ortiz/Joyce? Not like Joyce has the time to come up slow like most new pros do...
                    Joyce has said he wants to fight Ortiz, so I guess it's up to Haymon.

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                    • #80
                      I think it should be Takam or Duhaupas. Those guys are fringe contenders on the outside looking it at this stage of their careers. Both are durable & will fight anyone. It would be a good payday & if they can pull an upset they are right in line for another big fight. Neither guy is giving up a good a rank or position in the pecking order so why not? Both guys would stand in there with Ortiz & slug it out. I’d expect Ortiz to win but he is older than both & neither is afraid to mix it up. I said earlier I wonder if Oscar Rivas would take that fight?

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