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  • #81
    I got it Fres Oquendo. : ) They are around the same age and Fres was training for a fight that was recently cancelled so..... : )

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    • #82
      Originally posted by kafkod View Post
      Joyce has said he wants to fight Ortiz, so I guess it's up to Haymon.
      Joyce has only had five fights and is insignificant.. Please. He has no business being in the ring with anybody on Ortiz level or even the top 20. If you know even a little bit about boxing you would know that. Nobody is ducking Joyce. That's laughable.


      You should just say you have no answer to my question because you clearly don't .

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      • #83
        Originally posted by kafkod View Post
        He would have just fought AJ as the WBA mando if he hadn't jumped ship on Hearn and gone after Wilder instead.
        Joshua didn't want to fight Ortiz as his mandatory. It had nothing to do with what Ortiz wanted or did. Don't try to rewrite history here. Ortiz didn't duck Joshua.

        https://metro.co.uk/2017/05/09/luis-...fence-6625099/

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        • #84
          Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
          Joshua didn't want to fight Ortiz as his mandatory. It had nothing to do with what Ortiz wanted or did. Don't try to rewrite history here. Ortiz didn't duck Joshua.

          https://metro.co.uk/2017/05/09/luis-...fence-6625099/
          Do you know what mandatory means?

          Why do you think Hearn signed Ortiz and gave him an easy fight against Dave Allen on AJ's undercard, instead of matching him with Dillian Whyte, who had just beaten Allen and was publicly demanding that Hearn should let him fight Ortiz next?
          Last edited by kafkod; 09-27-2018, 05:38 PM.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            Do you know what mandatory means?

            Why do you think Hearn signed Ortiz and gave him an easy fight against Dave Allen on AJ's undercard, instead of matching him with Dillian Whyte, who had just beaten Allen and was publicly demanding that Hearn should let him fight Ortiz next?
            That doesn't have a damn thing to do with your claim that Ortiz ducked Joshua. Now you're grasping at straws so this is a waste of time.


            I posted a link to the facts. You're posting nonsense. You have no credibility on this subject. I'm done.
            Last edited by joseph5620; 09-27-2018, 06:13 PM.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
              That doesn't have a damn thing to do with your claim that Ortiz ducked Joshua. Now you're grasping at straws so this is a waste of time.


              I posted a link to the facts. You're posting nonsense. You have no credibility on this subject. I'm done.
              You posted a link to an article at a site I've never heard of about Ortiz talking a lot of garbage about suing the WBA. Did he sue them? Did he fck!

              Ortiz was AJ's WBA mando and he decided to fight Wilder instead of waiting for his shot. Those are the facts.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                You posted a link to an article at a site I've never heard of about Ortiz talking a lot of garbage about suing the WBA. Did he sue them? Did he fck!

                Ortiz was AJ's WBA mando and he decided to fight Wilder instead of waiting for his shot. Those are the facts.
                Lol aj fanboys like you don't want to read the truth. Sad

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                • #88
                  He should fight Povetkin

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by suffolkbull3 View Post
                    Ortiz beats ANYONE in the HW division not named wilder!
                    And that's why no top heavy except wilder will fight him.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Jkp View Post
                      Lol aj fanboys like you don't want to read the truth. Sad
                      The truth is:

                      Ortiz threatened to sue the WBA for allowing a rematch of AJ/Wlad before ordering their mando.

                      Ortiz didn't sue the WBA because they had already given permission for a rematch before the first fight, which they are allowed to do.

                      When Wlad retired instead of fighting the rematch both the WBA and the IBF ordered AJ to fight their mandos. After a meeting they decided the IBF mando should happen first because it had been ordered first.

                      Ortiz then left Hearn, signed with Haymon and fought Wilder instead waiting for his shot at AJ.

                      Those are all facts.

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