Joshua V Wilder: What do YOU think would be fair?

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  • Madison Boxing
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    #31
    Some people in this forum need to do some basic maths and work out what Joshua and wilder both made in their last fights then work that out into a ratio. If you think it ends up with Joshua only deserving 60 percent of a split then you need to go back to school. What planet do some of you live on honestly, Joshua just had 80k fans in the stadium on a ppv fight whilst wilder had about 10k on a free to air fight when they fought a similar level of fighter. Bunch of lunatics on here he deserves nowhere near 40 percent

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    • Madison Boxing
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      #32
      Originally posted by New England
      60 40 for joshua is very fair for a fight in wembley.

      fightmakes more money in the US.
      No it doesn't unless you've all lied about no-one knowing who Joshua is stateside.

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        #33
        Should be in a neutral state. Maybe Mexico.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #34
          Two ways to go about it 60/40 on everything (or close to it) gets it done and both make a ton of money.

          Or they could get tricky and do something like Joshua gets 70/30 UK revenue with Wilder getting 70/30 of the US end, with the neutral stuff being split 50/50 or maybe Joshua getting a slight edge like 55/45. The the total split ends up whatever it may be with both sides working hard on their ends to maximize revenue but with the other getting their beak wet enough to help out the other side a bit on each end.

          The bottom is probably most fair because that is what they are bringing to the table so they should reap the benefits of that. The percentages could be played with to make it work out right but the basic idea would be sound and both would still make a ton of money.

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            #35
            Originally posted by bluebeam
            That's what wilder asked for right out the gate and hearn said no.

            **** AJ.

            Let him figjt dillan whyte again.
            To be fair Whyte is a better HW than Wilder.

            Wilder just brings the cross Atlantic hopes of deluded Americans, so there's a bit of interest there.

            The best 3 British HW's all beat Wilder.

            AJ

            Whyte

            Dubois.

            He's taking on Fatty though, that's a pretty easy W for windmill.

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            • Tyistall
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              #36
              Wilder fans are like Trump fans or Canelo fans, no matter what their guy does, they will support it and say it's right. Even if they are dead wrong about it, they will say it's right. With that being said, Let's compare the two

              Wilder averages about 12k fans at his fights. Has never been on PPV. Has only one belt. And has fought only 1 boxer in the top 24 in the world right now.

              Anthony Joshua has fought in front of 300k fans in his last 4 fights. Is a PPV star in the UK with over 1 million PPV buys per fight. Has 4 belt (yes the IBO is a belt too). Has fought 4 of the top 10 boxers in the world right now.

              Only an idiot Wilder fan would believe that Wilder deserves anything about 25%. He should thank his stars that they offered him 15 million which converts to almost 20 million. Thats way more than he's made in his entire career hahah. but yet again, he will turn that down and fight for 1 million against bums and guys who are not ready like Tyson Fury. 7 million to fight Whyte...nope. 20 million to fight AJ...nope. 1-2 million to fight an out of shape Fury...absolutely hahahah. This dude is a fraud in the worst way.
              Last edited by Tyistall; 09-26-2018, 02:14 PM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Froch_uppercut
                They each have something the other wants, but AJ has multiple belts, makes considerably more money, and has a far better resume.

                I feel like 60/40 AJ and fight is at Wembley, and rematch for Wilder on same terms in his favour in a USA rematch if he wins in UK.

                What would be fair here?
                Yes, that's what would be fair.

                But also, both fights airing on SKY Box Office in the UK and SHO PPV in the US. Unfair to Wilder for the fight to be on DAZN when many millions more could be made from PPV.

                However, Wilder has been so jerked around for so long that I don't think he'll accept a one sided rematch clause at this point. He agreed to do that, and the flat fee, if the fight was in 2018. But now, that's out the window.

                With the new PBC TV deals, Haymon can afford to pay Wilder $6-7 million per fight against the Breazeales of the world. To risk it all against Joshua in the UK where it would be impossible to get a decision, for a flat fee, would be a terrible choice. Mutual rematch like AJ & Klitschko had is probably the only way the fight gets done as long as both remain undefeated.

                Hearn has already said AJ vs. Wilder is a much bigger fight than AJ vs. Klitschko, so unless Wilder is treated with some of the respect Klitschko was treated with, the fight won't happen.

                And it's not Wilder being a diva because he's showing Fury the same kind of respect he would ask from others.

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                • New England
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by DramaShow
                  No it doesn't unless you've all lied about no-one knowing who Joshua is stateside.


                  i have explained to you specifically and many others why it does!

                  which fight did more at the gate, klitshcko - joshua or hopkins - calzaghe?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    Yes, that's what would be fair.

                    But also, both fights airing on SKY Box Office in the UK and SHO PPV in the US. Unfair to Wilder for the fight to be on DAZN when many millions more could be made from PPV.

                    However, Wilder has been so jerked around for so long that I don't think he'll accept a one sided rematch clause at this point. He agreed to do that, and the flat fee, if the fight was in 2018. But now, that's out the window.

                    With the new PBC TV deals, Haymon can afford to pay Wilder $6-7 million per fight against the Breazeales of the world. To risk it all against Joshua in the UK where it would be impossible to get a decision, for a flat fee, would be a terrible choice. Mutual rematch like AJ & Klitschko had is probably the only way the fight gets done as long as both remain undefeated.

                    Hearn has already said AJ vs. Wilder is a much bigger fight than AJ vs. Klitschko, so unless Wilder is treated with some of the respect Klitschko was treated with, the fight won't happen.

                    And it's not Wilder being a diva because he's showing Fury the same kind of respect he would ask from others.
                    Wilder deserves no respect. He's fought bums his entire career and he started talking **** the last year or so to get the fight...just like Parker did to AJ and Hearn. It worked for Parker but now AJ has Parker's belt too. So that means AJ has even MORE belts than Wilder. And more PPV. And more fans. And a much bigger slice. And Haymon will never pay Wilder 6 or 7 million because no one comes to his fights hahah. I am willing to bet that the Fury fight will be another half sold arena too. Plus a dreadful PPV with about 97k buys

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Marchegiano
                      Should be in a neutral state. Maybe Mexico.

                      sure, if you don't want to make any money.

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