Comments Thread For: Naazim: Wilder Might Be Best Heavyweight Puncher in History

[nixxter]

KO'ing bums, taxi drivers and fat grandpas is easy. Let him fight a hungry young lion, or at least someone in good shape and with a decent chin and then we'll see how his power fares. French pastry shef Duhaupas ate all his punches like breakfast and busted up his eye.

[kafkod]

The hype that Wilder and Ortiz are getting in the US is way OTT.

Wilder is the hardest puncher in HW history .. because he KO'd Stiverne and Ortiz, who had never had their chins checked by any noted punchers before fighting Wilder?

Stiverne was stopped by a journeyman, ffs!

Ortiz is the best technical boxer in the division .. based on what evidence? His KO of Bryant Jennings?

Ortiz does one thing well, and one thing only ... which is land accurate counters on guys who walk into him throwing punches, like Jennings did. And that's it.

At long range, against somebody using distance and movement, he seems completely lost. Good boxing flows from a good jab, and Ortiz has one of the worst jabs I've ever seen from from a top class fighter. Most of the time, he telegraphs his jab by lifting his lead foot 6 inches off the canvas and lunging forward before stamping his foot back down again as the jab comes out. Really horrible technique, and it probably explains why he never won a medal of any colour, or even a national title, in over 300 amateur fights.

For boxing skill and technique, Tyson and Hughie Fury are levels above Ortiz, and I would rate AJ higher than him too.

[kafkod]

This is getting out of hand haha. Wilder has fought 40 bums and he gets credit for knocking them all out?????? Is this what boxing has come to now? Never fighting the best competition, talking trash and people respect you for it??? Nah man, he's a bum beater and he should never be mentioned in the same breath as all time greats. He will always find an excuse as to why he cannot fight a good fighter. Whyte, Fury, Klitschko, Parker, Miller, AJ, he has a different reason every time as to why he cannot fight any of them... but he will gladly fight Arreola, Washington, Szpilka and the rest. Have him KO guys in the top ten, hell, even the top 20 and he will get props Period

And again .. quoted because it tells the truth.

[kafkod]

****m showing signs of dementia?

Probably, wait until you hear "****m has forgotten more boxing than you would ever know" from one of these posters.

That's what dementia does to you.

[markther]

I will consider that IF Wilder KO’s everyone in this division in impressive fashion or at least (3) more top ranked HW’s. And that’s a big IF.

But if your talking about (1) punch KO power, not a harder puncher now than Tyson or Foreman was. Both Tyson and Foreman knocked out HW’s ranked high in the division multiple times. I wouldn’t even say Wilder hits harder than Liston or even Marciano who took out 34 of his 49 opponents in 6 rounds or less.

And all of these fighters would have KO’ed everyone Wilder has fought & probably quicker.

[allen23]

The hype that Wilder and Ortiz are getting in the US is way OTT.

Wilder is the hardest puncher in HW history .. because he KO'd Stiverne and Ortiz, who had never had their chins checked by any noted punchers before fighting Wilder?

Stiverne was stopped by a journeyman, ffs!

Ortiz is the best technical boxer in the division .. based on what evidence? His KO of Bryant Jennings?

Ortiz does one thing well, and one thing only ... which is land accurate counters on guys who walk into him throwing punches, like Jennings did. And that's it.

At long range, against somebody using distance and movement, he seems completely lost. Good boxing flows from a good jab, and Ortiz has one of the worst jabs I've ever seen from from a top class fighter. Most of the time, he telegraphs his jab by lifting his lead foot 6 inches off the canvas and lunging forward before stamping his foot back down again as the jab comes out. Really horrible technique, and it probably explains why he never won a medal of any colour, or even a national title, in over 300 amateur fights.

For boxing skill and technique, Tyson and Hughie Fury are levels above Ortiz, and I would rate AJ higher than him too.

yes ortiz is defintiely the best technical boxer in the heavyweight div bar one..
and another thing its clear that joshua has avoided him considering that he was promised the fight after klitschko and of course hearn retracted the offer!

[Zn1]

Its always funny watching people fall for the pseudo-mystical bullshit of 'brother naz'.

You can tell who the most gullible posters are, the ones most likely to join a cult or lose all their money in a ponzi scheme, by who is the most in awe of 'brother naz'.

I like Wilder. I like AJ too. I don't buy into the whole negotiation crap, choosing one side or the other as the good guy and the bad guy. I just want to see them fight.

So I am not a hater of Wilder. I like him. I even cheered him for whooping Zelenoff. But his resume is very poor, and he hasn't been tested properly yet. He has heavy hands, we all can see that, but until he proves himself against a few really good fighters, then saying 'best puncher in history' is idiotic.

But of course, if 'brother naz' says incredibly ****** things, you should watch who rushes to defend him. Watch those posters closely. When you get the chance, try to sign them up for a ponzi scheme. At least then they will provide some value.

brutal yet so true

[juggernaut666]

This article is full off holes , this is what happens when ppl dont do their research !

1 . Ortiz wouldn't bring the reach and speed that Joshua does so that right there makes a far more difficult fight bc Wilder reacts differently to guys that reach him easier . We saw this not just against Washington but even Duhaupas who closed Wilders eye .

Wilder weathered the storm but he was also saved by the bell .


2 . Mike Tyson had an iron chin , he was never hurt with one punch and took several Razor Ruddock monster left hooks , walking through them . Wilder was rocked badly by ERIC MOLINA left hook ...ONE ! Tyson was briefly stunned in his Bruno fight and took 10 rnds of punches against Buster .

Are you seriously selling that Wilders chin is better than M.Tysons ? The same Wilder that stumbled from Washington jabs ?


3 ." Every time I see Joshua hurt in a fight, he damn near goes down. When you see Wilder hurt, he still stands his ground. He’s never shown fear or apprehension.”

Heres a doozy ! . lol


Joshua was only hurt once by a guy who hits harder then Wilder ( despite your opinion ) and he was exhausted when it happened bc his inexperience and heaviest weight were both factors of that happening .


Wilder has fought no actuall true heavy punchers . Ortiz hits hard but Wilder as mentioned saved by the bell , to paint Joshua as some fragile guy is as nonsensical as the article you have written here .



Im not even going to get into Wilder K.O s .......


I'll spare you on that one ! Naazim Richardson

[1hourRun]

To all the little ladies in this thread that cant get enough of Deontay.

[HURTFEELINGS]

And I guess you & these other AJ fanatics are more knowledgeable about boxing than Naazim?

EXACTLY
Not just ANY trainer.