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  • #21
    Originally posted by scarybodyshot View Post
    Jesus Mary & Joseph, Wilder has beaten 1 (arguably 2 if you want to include Stiverne... I wouldn't but I know some delusionals do rate him) decent opponent in 40 fights.

    This post has nothing to do with AJ because Wilder has been professional longer but can anyone give me a genuine reason why he hasn't fought more than 1 tough fight in his whole career? How can you be a heavyweight champion of the world and not fight top contenders?

    The reason is that he is being protected by his handlers surely? He hasn't even stepped up to Chisora like level of opponents, I cannot name more than 5 Wilder opponents off the top of my head, seriously.
    Lol because the fraud sanctioning bodies rank someone they are now mystically magically good? Bwhahaha! The WBA just ranked BJ Flores #5 hahahaha #5!!! The HW division is garbage up and down. The “golden win” the one Brits mainly get moist in the panties over was to a 41 yo boxer, 4 years past his prime, had been fighting tin cans his past 5, had been out of action 2 prior to that and his last loss was to a jelly roll tub of lard all you can eat buffet mental case fat a$$. But if you sprinkle that magic fairy dust on his a$$ well we’ll that makes it an impressive win. Sure if you’re competing in the nursing home leagues. GTFO with that he fought this guy and that nonsense. When the HW division actually produces something better than bile and the alphabet organizations actually rank a legit HW then I’ll start to pay attention...

    BJ Flores 5 Bwhahahhaha

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Scopedog View Post
      I think he's worth including in the conversation, but is he really better than Tyson, Foreman, Shavers etc.? I doubt that somewhat.
      hes certainly not as good but no doubt his power is up there with the best

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      • #23
        Originally posted by scarybodyshot View Post
        Jesus Mary & Joseph, Wilder has beaten 1 (arguably 2 if you want to include Stiverne... I wouldn't but I know some delusionals do rate him) decent opponent in 40 fights.

        This post has nothing to do with AJ because Wilder has been professional longer but can anyone give me a genuine reason why he hasn't fought more than 1 tough fight in his whole career? How can you be a heavyweight champion of the world and not fight top contenders?

        The reason is that he is being protected by his handlers surely? He hasn't even stepped up to Chisora like level of opponents, I cannot name more than 5 Wilder opponents off the top of my head, seriously.
        You are crazy that is easy. What the hell are you talking about I will name 5 and when I do keep your mouth shut

        1 Ortiz

        2 Stiverne

        10 minutes have passed

        3 Stiverne ..again because he was a bigger more hungrier version of the first one

        4 Gerald Washington .. I don’t care what you say he was undefeated and very awkward

        5 Povetkin... I’m adding him to my list because I made him take drugs because he was scared

        Now F#uck off and put some respek on my name

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        • #24
          Wow, for a scholar of boxing to make a comment like that is scary. He has freakish power but to suggest he might be the hardest HW in history is what a fanboy would say. For example Ernie shaver had a lot of the tougher and bigger name saying that about him, You had better opponents saying that about Holmes, Tua, Ruddock, Tyson just to name a few, and all of those use that power against better opponents than what Wilder has fought so far. Again before poster get their knickers in a twist, am not saying he isn't a power puncher or that he doesnt have KO power, but things like his quality should be a reason not to call him the hardest puncher at HW ever.

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          • #25
            Damn! What Brother Naz is saying is this cat Wilder is a bad mean mutha! No wonder they are protecting Anthony Joshua on the other side of the pond from this guy. He is not ready. He can't handle the power of the "Bronze Bomber".

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Southpawology View Post
              ****m showing signs of dementia?
              Probably, wait until you hear "****m has forgotten more boxing than you would ever know" from one of these posters. He must be drunk when he made that statement.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
                You are crazy that is easy. What the hell are you talking about I will name 5 and when I do keep your mouth shut

                1 Ortiz

                2 Stiverne

                10 minutes have passed

                3 Stiverne ..again because he was a bigger more hungrier version of the first one

                4 Gerald Washington .. I don’t care what you say he was undefeated and very awkward

                5 Povetkin... I’m adding him to my list because I made him take drugs because he was scared

                Now F#uck off and put some respek on my name
                Ok I'll stop you there, couple of things.. You named the same person more than once? He has never actually fought Povetkin?

                I'll add a third point: Gerald Washington? Are you being serious? I don't even know how to respond to that one, I'll perhaps be able to when he claws back into the top 100 heavyweights.

                Are you related to Deontay Wilder or something?

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by scarybodyshot View Post
                  Ok I'll stop you there, couple of things.. You named the same person more than once? He has never actually fought Povetkin?

                  I'll add a third point: Gerald Washington? Are you being serious? I don't even know how to respond to that one, I'll perhaps be able to when he claws back into the top 100 heavyweights.

                  Are you related to Deontay Wilder or something?
                  I’m his sister

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
                    Bro what the hell are you going on about? There is no denying Wilder is the hardest hitting heavyweight around now and I know Wilder fans are frustrated with this Joshua ordeal but I have given your champion his respect. I like Wilder and he is a brother so why shouldn’t I? However this is exactly what happened with Pacquiao , I liked him then his cult like fans started talking nonsense about Mayweather and I had to review the situation and decide I don’t want to be part of this hypnosis.

                    Wilder’s iron clad fist has detonated on nobody’s chin of note. Does he punch hard? of course he does but who has he knocked out? Has he knocked out anyone that has not been knocked out baring Ortiz.Furthermore Ortiz looked more exhausted than anything.

                    Joshua is hard puncher but who has he knocked out? Klitschko but he has been knocked out before several times and he was older when Joshua fought him. Now Parker came with a record of never hitting the canvas even in sparring. A granite chin if he knocked him out hen that’s a statement. Joshua has knocked out all his opponents baring one but that don’t mean S#hit to me because they are all garbage. He is my boy but it is what it is.

                    Tell me a fighter on Wilders resume where he was known for his granite chin?.....before you respond Stiverne was solid first fight and took all Deontay’s best punches . Please don’t comment on Stiverne 2 that hadn’t fought in 2 years and was fat , inactive and old as fuc#k. So let me conclude I rate his power how can you not but he hasn’t knocked out anyone of note to be compiling your record

                    George foreman when he fought Michael Moore at the grand old age of whatever he was I can’t be bothered to check, was getting beat down but as soon as he touched him that was all she wrote. Wilders Power is not on that level
                    *sigh* I hate buggers like you, please become informed before quoting me again. Johann Duhaupas had never been stopped prior to facing Deontay Wilder, Johann Duhuapas entered the top ten after his defeat to the 'Bronze-Bomber' . Alexander Pedvetkin later knocked Johann out on steriods. FACT.

                    Gerald Washington was undefeated, Deontay ruined him ; Washington took a hell of a beating vs. 'Big-Baby' Miller, Jerell said he couldnt believe how Washington endured so much and was hoping the ref would stop the fight.

                    Chris Arreola had a hell of a chin as a HW, took all Vitali had and never went down, Vitali Klitschko as I noted is one of the greatest punchers in the HW division, Arreola went up against hard-hitting Seth Mitchell, got him out of there ; took on Bermane Stiverne in his prime, fought the man twice before finally getting legit stopped.

                    Bermane Stiverne had one bogus stoppage in his record vs. Demetrius King ( watch the fight ) before Wilder knocked him out cold -- in there first encountered Deontay had pins inserted in his hand and fractured his right hand, thats the reason Bermane went the distance.

                    Malik Scott beat the count vs. Dereck Chisora ( again watch the fight ) the UK ref Phil Edwards is proven to be horrible and corrupt ; you may know this but Malik Scott went the distance with Luis Ortiz, but the 'Bronze-Bomber' knocked him out in the first round!

                    Wow...you are making me right a lot -- yeah...I'm just going to stop at Luis Ortiz, Deontay destroyed the 'Boogeyman' that Joshua and Eddie fled from.

                    Sorry for any spelling errors, its late I'm tired.
                    Last edited by 1hourRun; 07-27-2018, 05:15 AM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by HarvardBlue View Post
                      I don't know if he's the best HW puncher in history but I do believe he's capable of knocking out anyone you put infront of him. Including Joshua.

                      I was solidly behind Joshua beating him until I saw the Ortiz fight. Not only do I give Wilder a chance to beat Joshua, I flat out think he will.

                      I'm also starting to think after the Ortiz fight, Hearn made a concious decision to keep Joshua away from Wilder for as long as he can.
                      No truer words could've been spoken! Well said!

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