Why was Wilder expected to sign for a fight 1 year away with a flat fee??

[Just looking]

Why do these Hearn fanboys try so hard to be called idiots? Did anyone of them at least get the point?

[Derranged]

What's funny about all of the posters who said GGG should have taken 10 million flat, or that Manny should have taken 40 million flat, or that Wilder should have taken 12 million flat, is they never have much to say when those fighters end up making way more than the offer they insisted should have been accepted...

You're right, that's a good point.

[uppercut510]

Wilder isn't worth 35-40%.

Joshua does more viewers on PPV than Wilder does on a subscription network. Joshua sells out stadiums and Wilder can't sell out the Barclays center.

The split should be more like 90-10/85-15 based on their drawing ability.

oh man this is getting out of control. gee wiz

[Szef]

It's quite clear that NEITHER side really wanted this fight to happen next.

[Illmatic94]

He was expected to sign to fight AJ next, because that's what he said he was going to do.

"We have agreed to the terms that Eddie has put out to us for a fight in the U.K.," Finkel told ESPN. "Deontay has accepted his terms to fight in the U.K. Deontay sent an email to Joshua [Sunday] night and I sent one today to Barry Hearn and Eddie telling them that we officially accept the offer to fight under the terms they gave us and to send us the contract."

.... and then the contract arrived with no date.

Team Wilder and every boxing fan were under the impression those negotiations were taking place for a fight THIS year. that explains why Hearn put the gag order on AJ to not spill the beans they had April 2019 in mind all along. wasting everybody's time.

[champion4ever]

.... and then the contract arrived with no date.

Team Wilder and every boxing fan were under the impression those negotiations were taking place for a fight THIS year. that explains why Hearn put the gag order on AJ to not spill the beans they had April 2019 in mind all along. wasting everybody's time.

Exactly, that's what you call a classic Bait-and-Switch. They were stringing Deontay Wilder and us boxing fans along all the time, while knowing full well in advance that the fight was never going to take place this year but possibly in April of 2019.

[koolkc107]

I ask the GGG fans the same question because that is the reason they gave why it was OK for GGG to reject Canelo's flat fee offer.

I actually thought GGG should have took the flat fee. Good for him that he didn't.

But, a guy that pulled 97K and 150K his PPVs headlines had no real leverage on Canelo.

I thought Manny should have accepted the 40M but also on the condition there be at least a 60/40 split. When the deal was finally made, it looked a bit like that, with Pac getting more guaranteed but less than 40%. Pac was a proven PPV star, albeit not as big as Floyd.

Wilder and AJ are not either of the above cases.

Neither guy is a proven PPV star. One guy is really good at selling $25 cards in his own country while the other guy has 2,3, and sometime 5 times the viewership on regular cable. So all you have is precedent to determine what is fair.

Parker got 32% or 35%. That means Wilder is automatically worth more, probably at least 40% in Britain.

In the US, a PPV market neither has ever been it, it's 50/50. 50% to AJ because of his popularity in his own country- whose fans are known to travel well. 50% to Wilder because his ratings in the US market are very much better and he is the longer reigning champion. I know Brits wanna point out AJ's multiple belts but one was a gimme, another was a vacant, and the only won actually won in the ring vs another champ was the result of a snoozefest. Clearly both men bring something pretty equal to a US fight.

For Hearn and AJ to insist that the 15M offer is still in play- after it was clear Wilder only accepted the lowball offer to be next- is to basically let everyone know they don't want to fight Wilder in April of 2019 either.

And, I suspect that by the end of this year, it will become painfully obvious that whatever happens, a huge opportunity was lost here and it is all on Hearn and AJ as to why.

There is no doubt that should Wilder and AJ meet in the future as undefeated fighters, it is going to be far costlier to Matchroom than it would have been this year.

[kafkod]

.... and then the contract arrived with no date.

Team Wilder and every boxing fan were under the impression those negotiations were taking place for a fight THIS year. that explains why Hearn put the gag order on AJ to not spill the beans they had April 2019 in mind all along. wasting everybody's time.

Exactly, that's what you call a classic Bait-and-Switch. They were stringing Deontay Wilder and us boxing fans along all the time, while knowing full well in advance that the fight was never going to take place this year but possibly in April of 2019.

You can't play bait and switch games in negotiations involving people like Haymon, Ryabinski and the WBA without getting yourself sued and the whole deal voided!

You are talking about a multi-million dollar business contract, ffs!

Hearn publically told everybody concerned that the contract he sent to Wilder was for a fight this year. You really think he could then switch that to April 2019 after tricking Wilder into signing it?

Hearn and Dibella just finalised a deal for fight this year between Jacobs and Derevyenchenko - with no date or venue in the contracts. It's not a deal breaker - unless you want it to be.

[kafkod]

It's quite clear that NEITHER side really wanted this fight to happen next.

Absolutely!

I'm 99% sure this whole thing was cooked up by Finkel and his old buddy Barry Hearn during that meeting they had a month or so ago.

[juggernaut666]

Absolutely!

I'm 99% sure this whole thing was cooked up by Finkel and his old buddy Barry Hearn during that meeting they had a month or so ago.

All these dummies will be on suicide watch after Wilder gets knocked out cold in 3 , 5 rnds tops by Joshua ! They will have zero propaganda material to continue on .


This thing isnt cooked up bc its no guarantee Wilder keeps winning , i know that both sides know Wilder is an accident waiting to happen , hence team Wilder wanting unrealistic terms to get one huge payday that benefits Wilders 5 managers bc once the belt goes so do their annual income .