Why was Wilder expected to sign for a fight 1 year away with a flat fee??

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    #31
    Originally posted by Derranged
    I ask Wilder fans why Golovkin should've accepted a flat fee but not Wilder.
    Check my history. I was also saying it would be ridiculous for GGG to take a flat fee.

    Flat fees do not exist for big megafights.

    Wilder said yes to prove Eddie was lying. Once that was proven, Wilder was never going to accept a flat fee ever again.

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      #32
      He was expected to sign to fight AJ next, because that's what he said he was going to do.

      "We have agreed to the terms that Eddie has put out to us for a fight in the U.K.," Finkel told ESPN. "Deontay has accepted his terms to fight in the U.K. Deontay sent an email to Joshua [Sunday] night and I sent one today to Barry Hearn and Eddie telling them that we officially accept the offer to fight under the terms they gave us and to send us the contract."

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        #33
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Very few people see Wilder as being at fault here, even pros in England have blamed AJ.

        I understand Wilder could take a crap deal but he decided not to, which I also understand.
        Most UK pros would jump at the chance to top the bill in a US PPV fight, and some of them have come out and said that AJ should have agreed to fight Wilder in Vegas.

        But most UK pros can't make £25million by staying at home and having US fighters travel for them ....
        Last edited by kafkod; 07-27-2018, 01:52 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          Check my history. I was also saying it would be ridiculous for GGG to take a flat fee.

          Flat fees do not exist for big megafights.

          Wilder said yes to prove Eddie was lying. Once that was proven, Wilder was never going to accept a flat fee ever again.
          I wasn't referring to you specifically, I did not even know what your thoughts were on the subject.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Derranged
            I wasn't referring to you specifically, I did not even know what your thoughts were on the subject.
            What's funny about all of the posters who said GGG should have taken 10 million flat, or that Manny should have taken 40 million flat, or that Wilder should have taken 12 million flat, is they never have much to say when those fighters end up making way more than the offer they insisted should have been accepted...

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              #36
              Originally posted by Illmatic94

              Parker gets a percentage but not Wilder... that's all I need to know to see the fear in AJ. get that body bag ready..
              actually Parker didn’t get a percentage. The agreement was circa 33% however it was a flat fee. If you listen to interviews from both sides after you’ll Find our that he didn’t actually make 33%, quite a bit less - because it sold more ppv than was forecast.

              Parker was still happy because he got his guaranteed amount so it didn’t matter.

              I know a lot of American fans are ignoring this at the moment but it does ruin the argument somewhat so I can see why

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                #37
                Originally posted by uppercut510
                he agreed if it was next not next year. once he saw it was for na ext year he turned it down. the same can be said about asking for 50 mil and then turning it down. they need to renegotiate and wilder should get 35-40% that's about it. flat fees for this fight shouldn't even be mentioned.
                Wilder isn't worth 35-40%.

                Joshua does more viewers on PPV than Wilder does on a subscription network. Joshua sells out stadiums and Wilder can't sell out the Barclays center.

                The split should be more like 90-10/85-15 based on their drawing ability.

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                  #38
                  Did anyone pick up that Joshua can’t count? Since when was April ten months away ��

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                    #39
                    Isn't that about the damnedest thing? As if Deontay Wilder is going to starve because he won't fight AJ.

                    These British fanboys are forgetting that Deontay Wilder is already a champion and a millionaire. He isn't motivated by greed. He just want a shot at becoming Boxing's undisputed heavyweight champion of the world that's all.

                    If AJ wasn't the unified champion, Wilder wouldn't give two shits about him, his fans or his country for that matter. So it's not money he's wants.

                    He doesn't need to rubber stamp a postdated contract with no guarantee, percentage or upside if he doesn't want to. That's why he has hired a team of lawyers and attorney's to do that.

                    They will see to that he exercises his Due diligence and protect his interest for whatever contract Matchroom Boxing decides to offer him.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by uppercut510
                      I think a percentage is the most logical thing, wilder is a biger name than parker and brings aj more money. hopefully the fight is made. peace
                      again, what's the logic behind a percentage over a flat fee? the flat fee could end up being more than the percentage, if the percentage is accurately and objectively derived.
                      i think its debatable that wilder is a bigger name than parker. but that's a separate argument. wilder is already getting waay more money than parker did.

                      i don't think anyone can make a logical argument as to why wilder deserves more than what he's been offered. it may not be wilder's fault that he's not worth as much as he should be, but it is what it is. his management team is trash.

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