Why was Wilder expected to sign for a fight 1 year away with a flat fee??

[rickJen]

The guy doesn't even deserve $15 million.
What are his options?
None.
With all the free publicity with AJ's name,
he'll probably make his first $3 million in his next fight.

[Laligalaliga]

Isn't that about the damnedest thing? As if Deontay Wilder is going to starve because he won't fight AJ.

These British fanboys are forgetting that Deontay Wilder is already a champion and a millionaire. He isn't motivated by greed. He just want a shot at becoming Boxing's undisputed heavyweight champion of the world that's all.

If AJ wasn't the unified champion, Wilder wouldn't give two shits about him, his fans or his country for that matter. So it's not money he's wants.

He doesn't need to rubber stamp a postdated contract with no guarantee, percentage or upside if he doesn't want to. That's why he has hired a team of lawyers and attorney's to do that.

They will see to that he exercises his Due diligence and protect his interest for whatever contract Matchroom Boxing decides to offer him.

What stopped him from unifying? The belts where all there for grabs but he was too scared to go for them.

Another with a heart of stone wither the storm and unified them to put himself as the #1 in the division.

There is no sentiment here, it took AJ 3 fights to unify all belts except one, you can't come from nowhere to make ridiculous demands.

It's either you accept what's been giving to you or you search for another path to be undisputed.

The guy that unified has to benefit from his hard work. There is no emotion here no matter what anybody says.

If wilder is gonna make X5 of his regular, AJ should equally make X5 of his regular as well.

It's not AJ's fault he went fighting bums and unranked opponents.

[koolkc107]

Martin challenged Joshua so Hearn had to finance the fight in U.K to generate the most money for Joshua , that doesn't mean everyone will now get a 50% of Joshuas current drawing power he now commands !


Parker is a PPV draw in his country thats why he got a percentage for a smaller fight which generated 7 Million for team Parker .


"It's easy to figure out if you look at it objectively. "

How can you do this with beer goggles on 24 /7 ? lol

Parker is a PPV draw in his country, huh?

85K buys is a draw to you?

Hint: Beer > Crack

Get help, son.

Here's the truth.

Wilder is the biggest fight of his career.

Biggest as far as legacy.

Biggest as far as money.

And he is trying nickel and dime Wilder unlike any other champion he has had to face.

Because he knows he isn't ready and doesn't want it right now.

[Laligalaliga]

I actually thought GGG should have took the flat fee. Good for him that he didn't.

But, a guy that pulled 97K and 150K his PPVs headlines had no real leverage on Canelo.

I thought Manny should have accepted the 40M but also on the condition there be at least a 60/40 split. When the deal was finally made, it looked a bit like that, with Pac getting more guaranteed but less than 40%. Pac was a proven PPV star, albeit not as big as Floyd.

Wilder and AJ are not either of the above cases.

Neither guy is a proven PPV star. One guy is really good at selling $25 cards in his own country while the other guy has 2,3, and sometime 5 times the viewership on regular cable. So all you have is precedent to determine what is fair.

Parker got 32% or 35%. That means Wilder is automatically worth more, probably at least 40% in Britain.

In the US, a PPV market neither has ever been it, it's 50/50. 50% to AJ because of his popularity in his own country- whose fans are known to travel well. 50% to Wilder because his ratings in the US market are very much better and he is the longer reigning champion. I know Brits wanna point out AJ's multiple belts but one was a gimme, another was a vacant, and the only won actually won in the ring vs another champ was the result of a snoozefest. Clearly both men bring something pretty equal to a US fight.

For Hearn and AJ to insist that the 15M offer is still in play- after it was clear Wilder only accepted the lowball offer to be next- is to basically let everyone know they don't want to fight Wilder in April of 2019 either.

And, I suspect that by the end of this year, it will become painfully obvious that whatever happens, a huge opportunity was lost here and it is all on Hearn and AJ as to why.

There is no doubt that should Wilder and AJ meet in the future as undefeated fighters, it is going to be far costlier to Matchroom than it would have been this year.

If wilder is so big in the US as you stated above, why has he never been on ppv?

[rickJen]

Since when did beggars become choosers?
"I WANT JOSHUA NOW!!!" screams the guy when he saw AJ beat Klitsch.
He's offered a shot at 4 titles, plus $15 million, and he says no.
Kills me with this undeserving clown.
Makes me puke.

[koolkc107]

If wilder is so big in the US as you stated above, why has he never been on ppv?

AJ has never been on US PPV either.

You folks need to stop acting like selling $25 PPVs in Britain somehow makes AJ an international PPV star.

It doesn't.

He is a local celebrity that has found a niche.

He is like a band that is known very well in one country expecting to charge the same and be treated the same all over.

He hasn't earned that yet.

And he damned sure can't treat another champion that way, especially when that champion put a better offer on the table than he did.

Hope that helps.

[Laligalaliga]

You keep talking about what Wilder does or doesn't generate as if that has had ANYTHING to do with how Matchroom has done business prior to Deontay.

What did Martin generate? He got almost 50/50.

Parker? He got 32% and a split and his numbers vs Wilders are crap. What did Parker generate to deserve that?

And yet in a fight that everyone knows is going to be the biggest in the sport, which a precedent has already been well defined by how business was done with other champions and names (Martin, Wlad, Parker), all of a sudden it isn't a matter of what the fight itself will generate but the relative merits of what has come before?

What is it about Wilder that requires Matchroom to all of a sudden do business completely different than what they've done with EVERY OTHER CHAMPION?

It's easy to figure out if you look at it objectively.

They don't want Wilder now.

They never did.

And even when he called their bluff on that lowball, they found a way out of it.

And they are insisting that it stand for the next one too so they can avoid him then too.
The
Sad...

The best way to call their bluff is to sign the damn contract. Anything outside that is a joke.
Prove to the world that you are the KO king and improve your world wide position as the baddest guy in the division.
Every other excuse of date shift, venue, purse is all bull****.

[Laligalaliga]

AJ has never been on US PPV either.

You folks need to stop acting like selling $25 PPVs in Britain somehow makes AJ an international PPV star.

It doesn't.

He is a local celebrity that has found a niche.

He is like a band that is known very well in one country expecting to charge the same and be treated the same all over.

He hasn't earned that yet.

And he damned sure can't treat another champion that way, especially when that champion put a better offer on the table than he did.

Hope that helps.

Lolx.... you sound like a baby. AJ is a ppv star at least in Europe to be modest. Parker is also a ppv star in his country no matter how small he is still recognised.
Why has wilder not sold a single ppv in his own country?
If AJ is a local celebrity with over 1mil ppv, it implies that wilder is no where near being a celeb and it proves that hearn is over paying him for the green belt.

And if your wilder had 50mil,hkw come he couldn't pay other champs to unify with them? You can't even pay other champs to unify with you when yourself still earn 1.5mil.

Boxing is not a charity sport fella, open your eyes.

[Blond Beast]

The Fight is Worth MORE than the Sum of its Parts!!!!

[Blond Beast]

Takes a Wilder to Make this fight. Will it do more ppv buys than Wlad v Wilder? Why not Prove how worthless Wilder is by offering him no purse just all the ppv money the fight does over the kliscko fight? I’m sure he’d take it.