Comments Thread For: Parker Promoter: Wilder is Trying To Steal Money Off Joshua

[rickJen]

Hearn and Brook travelled all the way to the US for Porter's title.
Brook got a mere $200K.
He won the title and made lots of money.
Wilder is offered a shot at 4 titles, plus $15 million.
He says no.
Unbelievable greed.
Or it may be fear.

[cameltoe]

It sad how badly you Joshua fanboys are being hustled by your own hero. However you all still don't get it. This money talk was a well orchestrated distraction by Matchroom boxing and Team Joshua as a smoke screen in order to avoid the fight.

This should have never been about money in the first place. It was always about two fighters stepping into that ring challenging one another over who is boxing's undisputed heavyweight champion was as I would explain.

The original offer for a $12.5 mil Flat-fee was a bluff by Matchroom Boxing which Team Wilder was more than happy to call them on just to have Anthony Joshua open up his big mouth by following that up with another bluff by stating" Give me $50 mil and I'll sign to fight tomorrow". Likewise, Deontay Wilder personally called AJ's bluff once again by offering and showing him the $50 mil he requested and subsequently turned down.

The last bluff that Matchroom Boxing made was when they said they were upping their original offer to $15mil but again; Just as in their previous bluffs they were called on it once more by Deontay Wilder on June 11 when he accepted all of their terms and conditions of the new contract.

This put Matchroom Boxing in a panic mode because they never expected Team Wilder to accept that offer. By this time they had run out of bluffs, then all they had left were excuses to not to make the fight.

Now can't you see a pattern here? One side wants the fight while the other doesn't. So it's very clear to everyone from Tyson Fury, Joseph Parker, Joseph Parker's trainer, Evander Holyfield, Luis Ortiz, TMZ, Showtime and host of many others that Anthony Joshua did not want to fight Wilder. It's just as clear as night and day.

What’s sad is you can’t agree with any kind of objectivity. If someone doesn’t 100% believe Wilder is totally blame-free, you’re not interested in their opinion. And filling in the gaps in your knowledge with nothing but narrative that suits YOUR fighter? Now THAT’S a fan boy.

Take off the Wilder shades and the tin foil hat while you’re at it. In 40 fights he’s not managed to negotiate one big fight. His team are holding him back. He’s fighting Dominic Breazeale next FFS.

Stop trying to defend everything he does. I’m not trying to defend Hearn, they’ve not covered themselves in glory, but Wilder’s team are *not* free from criticism here.

If Wilder really wanted the fight, having already accepted all the terms, he could have had it.

Chucking some BS 24-hour offer with zero details isn’t doing business. Story moved on from there. They had a contract in front of them for a real offer and as good as turned it down.

[Ray*]

GGG vs Jacob's was on ppv because HBO decided that the purses exceeded their budget. I'm not sure if that will be the case with Wilder Breazeale. Dibella may choose to do so, but it I don't think it will be to prove to folks that Wilder can sell PPV. I think that the past pursues and ppvs sold talk is valued more by fans than it is promoters/managers in negotiations. I could see Wilder Breazeale being on free TV like CBS or purchased by ESPN.

Well Wilder purse might exceed showtimes budget, and not only that he has gather momentum, probably the biggest of his career, so they have to make it now.

[cameltoe]

No, Eddie's a trickster. That's what I call a bait-and-switch. Let's just say what you are saying is true. They had several weeks to fill in those blanks. The only reason why they didn't put that in writing was because they would have been sued had they have done so for breach of contract. It was a secret postdated contract to begin with for April 2019; As they had no plans for fighting Wilder in 2018 anyhow. The contract was artfully and masterfully manipulated with carefully guarded words. Their intentions were to delay the fight all along. It's very sad that decent innocent fans such as yourself; Who just so happens to be an Anthony Joshua fan refuse to see that fact.

What nonsense. You’re creating your own truth and using the word ‘fact’.

There is very little fact in what you’ve posted from what I can see. It’s mainly your belief shaped to suit your fighter.

If that’s what you think then fine. But don’t jump in here and start claiming that’s what happened and it’s *fact*.

[cameltoe]

Neither Wilder or AJ have fought any relevant opponents other than Wlad and Ortiz. AJ has 3 titles but he beat and old inactive
Wlad and two paper champs that received vacant titles. The HW division is weak, its pretty much Wiilder and AJ and thats it. Whyte and Parker aren't relevant, just because they've been hyped up by Hearn and UK fans, but they'r pretty much fringe contenders who haven't really beaten anyone of note. Haymon did Hearn and AJ a favor by handing over the IBF title so his fighter could get paid. Haymon could have easily had Martin fight Wilder. Same thing with Parker, he wasn't willing to to fight Wilder when wilder volunteered to step in for Fury when he backed out the first time. After Wilder/AJ, who exactly will there be for them to fight?

I was on the verge of agreeing with you, and I do to a point, but this obsession from Wilder fans of putting down Wlad as a genuine highlight victory is getting pathetic.

He was, with the retirement of Fury, far and away the best fighter in the division, no question. And Wilder fans were convinced prior to the fight he would ‘expose’ AJ. And he came to fight that night.

I’m not trying to defend AJ here, but the level to which Wilder fans are trying to dismiss that victory is staggering. Just read Bread’s column this week where a Wilder fan claims Wilder’s victory over Washington is superior to AJ’s over Wlad.

And if we compare with Ortiz, we have two fighters, both old. One is a proven former champion, the best fighter and dominant champion in the division this era. ATG HW no question. And who hadn’t he beat during his reign, other than his brother? Ortiz, while equally old, had never faced an elite fighter and had never even fought for a world title, let alone held one.

Ok rant over.

Other than that, I agree. The sooner Fury gets back to full fitness and makes things more interesting, the better.

[Curt Henning]

What nonsense. You’re creating your own truth and using the word ‘fact’.

There is very little fact in what you’ve posted from what I can see. It’s mainly your belief shaped to suit your fighter.

If that’s what you think then fine. But don’t jump in here and start claiming that’s what happened and it’s *fact*.

you can go on and on about whatever you want and try to place blame on both sides if you wish

the bottom line is wilder came with a great offer to fight in the US....and he even said "fine if you have to have it home ill take your offer"

all he did ask for was that it was NEXT! he did that months ago too when he said he'd gladly fight whyte if hearn promised to sign the AJ fight for next! and hearn couldnt commit to being NEXT either time!

thats the bottom line here

[5000boxing]

It's nothing more than delusional to think more Americans will buy the PPV over Brits. Wilder gets about 1 mill watching on basic cable, but when they go to PPV the viewer numbers drop by some margin. The same will happen here.

Wilder is a nobody who can't get anywhere near to 15 mill a fight, nor can he fight anyone else on PPV. The only fight he can do that, is with Joshua. Because he's the one who brings all the interest, not Wilder.

The fight is there for him in April if he wants it. If he doesn't, let him fight his bums in unsold arenas for a pittance. It's his choice. Joshua is not some sort of charity case who pays nobodies the kind of money they haven't earned and don't deserve.

Nothing matters.. the world knows AJ is a hype job!. if Wilder fought A.J or fury it will be PPV in America no other heavyweights bring that kinda heat.. same for AJ.. u call wilder a bum who has 40 fights over nothing but bums.. but he's the only one that has to jump thru hoops for the fight., u don't respect Wilder.. but u respect whyte.. smh! who else is left in the division that u would respect as a opponent? Let me guess.. Miller, whyte, parker? ORTIZ stops beats em all.

[cameltoe]

you can go on and on about whatever you want and try to place blame on both sides if you wish

the bottom line is wilder came with a great offer to fight in the US....and he even said "fine if you have to have it home ill take your offer"

all he did ask for was that it was NEXT! he did that months ago too when he said he'd gladly fight whyte if hearn promised to sign the AJ fight for next! and hearn couldnt commit to being NEXT either time!

thats the bottom line here

Hearn did promise them it would be next.

That’s not even up for debate.

[Phenom]

Hearn and Brook travelled all the way to the US for Porter's title.
Brook got a mere $200K.
He won the title and made lots of money.
Wilder is offered a shot at 4 titles, plus $15 million.
He says no.
Unbelievable greed.
Or it may be fear.

50 million and i willl sign tomorrow

[Sid-Knee]

Nothing matters.. the world knows AJ is a hype job!. if Wilder fought A.J or fury it will be PPV in America no other heavyweights bring that kinda heat.. same for AJ.. u call wilder a bum who has 40 fights over nothing but bums.. but he's the only one that has to jump thru hoops for the fight., u don't respect Wilder.. but u respect whyte.. smh! who else is left in the division that u would respect as a opponent? Let me guess.. Miller, whyte, parker? ORTIZ stops beats em all.

I never called Wilder a bum, I called him a 2 bit nobody. And I do on account of him not being known by anybody and never selling out when he fights. He also doesn't earn much money. A heavyweight with a title making such little money is rare.

You mean deluded Americans think AJ's a hype-job? Yeah, you guys smear any top fighter that isn't American. You're poisonous people that's why.

If you're looking for hype-jobs, look no further than most of your fighters. Most of them haven't done **** yet but you still call them elite.

Ortiz is old as ****, has high blood pressure (Which is why he nearly didn't pass the medical) only has 2 rounds in him, and has lost all snap and weight in his shots. So he's beating no one. When he steps up a level again he's getting knocked out. But you'd just say Wilder ruined him and make your excuses.