Comments Thread For: Parker Promoter: Wilder is Trying To Steal Money Off Joshua

[filup79]

You're delusional. Hearn wanted it in Oct or Nov. Due to the WBA looking over his shoulder he needed to move fast, so guaranteeing date and venue was secondary to getting Wilder to sign. The date and venue would have come AFTER the contract being signed.

Yet he had the Arena and date booked before the Povetkin fight was announced?

[Jewish-Reptile]

I like Higgins I genuinely do and agree somewhat with what he’s saying but the fact remains AJ asked the fans in the ring who they wanted to see him face next and they overwhelming voiced ‘WILDER’, they have to pay him his worth I’m not sure what he rejected someone can tell me ? All I know is he worth a certain figure and if AJ pulling down 20m then Wilder is deserving of 12-15 at least it’s the fight the fans want the fight will do better than any previous fight and at least as good as Klitschko anyone disrupting that is a fool. I’m not saying that Wilder is as universally recognised as Klitschko in the U.K. for them to exploit the U.K. ppv market I am stating the fans buying that fight on U.K. soil know who Wilder is, he’s co commentated several times to help build the fight.

I’d like to reiterate I’m not sure I believe he’s been lowballed but the harder ball he plays the better he’ll be compensated down the stretch holding out, pressure will build as interest will also AJ not facing him will face a dip in viewing figures a Pulev and Povetkin mandatory just does not sell as well ok they can still fill the stadium and that’s an incredible feit but it’ll never do what a Wilder Klitschko right will do numerically.

[SUBZER0ED]

Lmao.. those cheap as tickets! Lol.. I bet the live gate numbers wont beat the American ppv numbers!!

Hell, the tickets to Wilder's fights are cheap too. He didn't even sell out a fight in his home town.

[filup79]

The holdup isn't AJ or Wilder it's Hearn trying to take Wilder's cut nothing more nothing less. If AJ gets a guarantee $50 million plus back end why would Wilder fight for $14 million flat fee for a mega fight that's going to generate over a $100 million. Please someone answer that question honestly and without bias. Should AJ make $60 mil, Hearn $26 mil and Wilder $14 mil because that's really what Hearn is proposing.

Its crazy because when the 50 million offer was made, Hearn was worried about how much Wilder was going to get. Obviously Haymon and Company made that offer knowing what that fight would really make financially for Wilder. You have people in Haymon and Showitme who have put on some of the biggest money making fights, and then you have Hearn, who thinks just because he packs 90k in a stadium, that its a big money making fight. Wilder could probably go to the UK and fight some can and SKy would make it PPV. AJ can come to fight in the US, and it would be just on regular Showtime or HBO. That's the difference, UK puts on any crap fight on PPV while US PPV is reserved for mega fights.

[champion4ever]

Noelanthony has hit the nail on the head with his post. It would help if you took off the Wilder shades too. Neither side was totally serious about making this happen from the off.

The way I see it, Hearn is happy to wait- Joshua has another one or two big fights he can make in the meantime, so if Wilder’s team want to play games, we’ll chuck them a low-ball offer and leave it up to them. Wilder needs AJ. AJ doesn’t need Wilder, not yet.

It sad how badly you Joshua fanboys are being hustled by your own hero. However you all still don't get it. This money talk was a well orchestrated distraction by Matchroom boxing and Team Joshua as a smoke screen in order to avoid the fight.

This should have never been about money in the first place. It was always about two fighters stepping into that ring challenging one another over who is boxing's undisputed heavyweight champion was as I would explain.

The original offer for a $12.5 mil Flat-fee was a bluff by Matchroom Boxing which Team Wilder was more than happy to call them on just to have Anthony Joshua open up his big mouth by following that up with another bluff by stating" Give me $50 mil and I'll sign to fight tomorrow". Likewise, Deontay Wilder personally called AJ's bluff once again by offering and showing him the $50 mil he requested and subsequently turned down.

The last bluff that Matchroom Boxing made was when they said they were upping their original offer to $15mil but again; Just as in their previous bluffs they were called on it once more by Deontay Wilder on June 11 when he accepted all of their terms and conditions of the new contract.

This put Matchroom Boxing in a panic mode because they never expected Team Wilder to accept that offer. By this time they had run out of bluffs, then all they had left were excuses to not to make the fight.

Now can't you see a pattern here? One side wants the fight while the other doesn't. So it's very clear to everyone from Tyson Fury, Joseph Parker, Joseph Parker's trainer, Evander Holyfield, Luis Ortiz, TMZ, Showtime and host of many others that Anthony Joshua did not want to fight Wilder. It's just as clear as night and day.

[filup79]

Yet you expected Joshua to sign on a $50 million contract without any terms, any details, with Wilder and Finkel refusing to meet with Hearn to even discuss it?

And if Finkel and Wilder were so aggrieved by key details missing in the contract, why didn’t they refer back to matchroom, instead of procrastinating and posturing (as Noelanthony described it). They knew Matchroom was under pressure by the WBA, yet they ****ed about.

Noelanthony has hit the nail on the head with his post. It would help if you took off the Wilder shades too. Neither side was totally serious about making this happen from the off.

The way I see it, Hearn is happy to wait- Joshua has another one or two big fights he can make in the meantime, so if Wilder’s team want to play games, we’ll chuck them a low-ball offer and leave it up to them. Wilder needs AJ. AJ doesn’t need Wilder, not yet. Without AJ, Wilder goes back to fighting bums in Alabama. Hearn is in control, he can leave Wilder in the wilderness and he’s enjoying it. Shades of Mayweather in the negotiations.

Wilder’s team are (rightfully) annoyed by the low offer and games by Hearn, so they play games too, by making ridiculous offers which have no context or backbone, just to create social media buzz, and by then ****ing about when they did have a realistic offer on the table.

Only the most hardcore, fact-twisting moron can think one side is totally to blame in all this and the other side is completely innocent. Both sides have mucked about and butted heads.

Both sides want the fight, I believe both would have taken it next, but Hearn is the one who is probably happier to delay, knowing he has at least one other bumper payday he can reap beforehand.

Wilder’s team on the other hand just can’t get out of their own way. Hearn is right when he says he’s not being promoted properly. His team have made bad decision after bad decision, which is why he’s fought 1 decent (but totally unproven) fighter in 40 fights, he’s never fought anyone relevant, it’s why there are usually more people lining up waiting for their orders at the nearest KFC than there are at his fights, and why nobody knows, or even cares, who he is.

I get the ‘Parker had xxx split so Wilder needs more’ argument, but Parker was a bigger name in his home country for sure. Parker actually brought something to the table. And to be honest, he probably ended up with less than $15 million after the split.

Neither Wilder or AJ have fought any relevant opponents other than Wlad and Ortiz. AJ has 3 titles but he beat and old inactive
Wlad and two paper champs that received vacant titles. The HW division is weak, its pretty much Wiilder and AJ and thats it. Whyte and Parker aren't relevant, just because they've been hyped up by Hearn and UK fans, but they'r pretty much fringe contenders who haven't really beaten anyone of note. Haymon did Hearn and AJ a favor by handing over the IBF title so his fighter could get paid. Haymon could have easily had Martin fight Wilder. Same thing with Parker, he wasn't willing to to fight Wilder when wilder volunteered to step in for Fury when he backed out the first time. After Wilder/AJ, who exactly will there be for them to fight?

[Sid-Knee]

Yet he had the Arena and date booked before the Povetkin fight was announced?

Hearn is going to keep his options open so having Wembley on standby in case it's the Povetkin fight is smart. You don't just put all your eggs in one basket in case Wilder doesn't sign. Promoters have always got other options on the table just in case.

[filup79]

It sad how badly you Joshua fanboys are being hustled by your own hero. However you all still don't get it. This money talk was a well orchestrated distraction by Matchroom boxing and Team Joshua as a smoke screen in order to avoid the fight.

This should have never been about money in the first place. It was always about two fighters stepping into that ring challenging one another over who is boxing's undisputed heavyweight champion was as I would explain.

The original offer for a $12.5 mil Flat-fee was a bluff by Matchroom Boxing which Team Wilder was more than happy to call them on just to have Anthony Joshua open up his big mouth by following that up with another bluff by stating" Give me $50 mil and I'll sign to fight tomorrow". Likewise, Deontay Wilder personally called AJ's bluff once again by offering and showing him the $50 mil he requested and subsequently turned down.

The last bluff that Matchroom Boxing made was when they said they were upping their original offer to $15mil but again; Just as in their previous bluffs they were called on it once more by Deontay Wilder on June 11 when he accepted all of their terms and conditions of the new contract.

This put Matchroom Boxing in a panic mode because they never expected Team Wilder to accept that offer. By this time they had run out of bluffs, then all they had left were excuses to not to make the fight.

Now can't you see a pattern here? One side wants the fight while the other doesn't. So it's very clear to everyone from Tyson Fury, Joseph Parker, Joseph Parker's trainer, Evander Holyfield, Luis Ortiz, TMZ, Showtime and host of many others that Anthony Joshua did not want to fight Wilder. It's just as clear as night and day.

If an A side fighter really wants the fight, they will make the fight regardless. Canelo could have easily not fought GGG, for the same excuses people are making up for AJ. Canelo is the money man and GGG was offered a flat fee that was 5 or 6 times his purse. GGG was making 2M per fight. Canelo wanted the fight bad enough that he gave GGG a percentage. Same thing with this year, GGG made 1M for the Vanes fight. GGG wouldn't back down from the split he wanted, Canelo could have walked away because GGG was pricing himself out and fought Jacobs or O'Sullivan. Canelo agreed to give GGG more to make the fight, why? because he wanted to actually fight GGG and knows that it will bring in more money than if he fought someone else.

[Sid-Knee]

It sad how badly you Joshua fanboys are being hustled by your own hero. However you all still don't get it. This money talk was a well orchestrated distraction by Matchroom boxing and Team Joshua as a smoke screen in order to avoid the fight.

This should have never been about money in the first place. It was always about two fighters stepping into that ring challenging one another over who is boxing's undisputed heavyweight champion was as I would explain.

The original offer for a $12.5 mil Flat-fee was a bluff by Matchroom Boxing which Team Wilder was more than happy to call them on just to have Anthony Joshua open up his big mouth by following that up with another bluff by stating" Give me $50 mil and I'll sign to fight tomorrow". Likewise, Deontay Wilder personally called AJ's bluff once again by offering and showing him the $50 mil he requested and subsequently turned down.

The last bluff that Matchroom Boxing made was when they said they were upping their original offer to $15mil but again; Just as in their previous bluffs they were called on it once more by Deontay Wilder on June 11 when he accepted all of their terms and conditions of the new contract.

This put Matchroom Boxing in a panic mode because they never expected Team Wilder to accept that offer. By this time they had run out of bluffs, then all they had left were excuses to not to make the fight.

Now can't you see a pattern here? One side wants the fight while the other doesn't. So it's very clear to everyone from Tyson Fury, Joseph Parker, Joseph Parker's trainer, Evander Holyfield, Luis Ortiz, TMZ, Showtime and host of many others that Anthony Joshua did not want to fight Wilder. It's just as clear as night and day.

If it shouldn't be about money, why did Wilder turn down 15 mill? Why is he asking for half?

[filup79]

Hearn is going to keep his options open so having Wembley on standby in case it's the Povetkin fight is smart. You don't just put all your eggs in one basket in case Wilder doesn't sign. Promoters have always got other options on the table just in case.

If he already had Wembley on stand by and a date, why not come out and say that this is the location and date instead of saying late October or November. Hearn had a date and site reserved all along, he just didn't want to make the Wilder fight next. His dad is pretty much on record saying AJ should wait to fight Wilder.