honest question for AJ fans

[Holler]

Here we agree completely. But also let's mention feigning interest in the Wilder fight also leveraged Povetkin's team into making a deal and not pursuing a purse bid, since Hearn could just sign the Wilder fight (and possibly even a rematch) and make Povetkin wait a very long time.

Sounds very plausible. World of boxing may have expanded more energy in pushing WBA and have conceded more to Hearn on any deal / rematch clause that would otherwise have been the case given their mandatory status. If Wilder's peak time is a limited resource the same goes double for Povetkin.

[Holler]

Wilder's team believes RIGHT NOW is the most susceptible AJ will ever be and that he's getting better with each fight.

So regardless of what you think, I can tell you as someone who speaks regularly to Wilder's promoter and does business with him that the whole Wilder team desperately wanted the AJ fight ASAP. They felt their best chance to beat AJ was this year.

The best argument for Wilder's team wanting the fight sooner rather than later in my view. AJ was roundly criticised for delivering a boring performance against Parker but the real story was how well he controlled the fight without the same exposure we've seen against Klitschko or even Takam.

AJ may want the fight and I'd have favoured him to beat AJ ever since Wlad, but my bet is Rob Mc and Hearn were both happy to see him get one or two more camps and perfect this new style before risking Wilder's stopping power. Not that Povetkin is someone to treat as a training exercise.

[juggernaut666]

How is that proof Hearn preferred Wilder next? He was negotiating with Povetkin and would have been asking for extensions anyway to avoid a purse bid. For months, Hearn stated Povetkin was likely next and Wilder after that. Why would the extensions change that?

Why would the WBA LET Hearn ongoing extentions continue if Joshua wasnt fighting or have intent to fight Wilder next ?

You CLAIM to know the rules , youve been exposed on your own thread that you were ****** enough to create knowing you get caught lying DAILY on here , thats not very smart is it ? lol

Your a sitting duck on this forum that only a select few dummies deem knowledgeable ? lol

Promoters HAVE to set up fights in advance they just dont sit around and twittle their thumbs HOPING one fight gets made , just as Wilder MADE a deal with Breazeale should the Joshua fight not happen .

The difference is Hearn knew it would put more pressure on Wilder negotiating with Ryabinski .

Yea Hearn avoided Wilder fight so much he put out a false report that Joshua signed to fight Povetkin , waited for team Wilder to jump at them and then sent them a contract ! LOL


Without the extentions Povetkin would have been ordered to fight Joshua sooner - they wouldn't waste time and drag the WBA along , if they wnted to fight Povetkin they would have just fought him in the first place .


"They felt their best chance to beat AJ was this year. "


Yet didnt sign ANY contract ,made sure it got out in the media and still demand 50% as they did in the beginning ?

[juggernaut666]

Of course he was going to send back a signed contract. You can't be this dense. Why would he send back an UNSIGNED contract?!? You can't seriously be this ******.

See you got a reply back that didnt fit your story as usual !

Finkel said hes sending the contract back , do you think hes sending it back signed when hes stating other wrongs in the contract like a made up importance on date and venue ? And crying about a rematch claus ?

And your calling others ****** ?

[uppercut510]

AJ fights any body. Just keep to your own part of the bargain.
Some are just talk talk talk on social media, no action.

except wilder n ortiz (the old fossil)

[club fighter]

You are forgetting one punch KO's of Takam and Duhaupus, who both went 10 rounds in their fights with AJ and Wilder and finished on their feet.

A 98% KO ratio against the kind of opposition Wilder has been fighting doesn't mean anything.

Going deep into a fight with AJ is no real achievement, he's not explosive either.

Takam has a fight coming up with the slow plodding punching bag Chisora, if he looks like doodoo against him it will only mean what I've always suspected in that he's not really a top contender.

So, me thinks that 98% still is better.

[N/A]

Exactly my point... He claims to be the baddest guy but still want a rematch clause.
That means he also has doubts, he knows he could lose as well.

Rematch clause wasn't a deal breaker for Wilder. He was willing to sign without a rematch clause.

Rematch clause was a deal breaker for AJ, it's one of the reasons he wasn't willing to sign for the 50 million he asked for.

Wouldn't that mean that it's actually AJ that has doubts since a rematch clause was a requirement for him, but Wilder was willing to fight without one?

[N/A]

The most important belt stuff is a myth. A champ makes the belt.

"Champ makes the belt" is actually the myth. The truth is that the champs make the belt. As in, over time, the quality of the champions end up determining the prestige or lack thereof for a championship.

Anybody can look at the list of the WBC heavyweight champions and look at the list of the WBO champions and see a clear distinction of which title is more important.

[N/A]

Haven't you been saying he can't sign a contract with no date and venue on it?

Correct, which is why they were going to send back at the end of the week as Hearn was claiming he'd have a date for them during the week.

When Hearn finally gave them a date, it was April.

Wilder never ever had an opportunity to sign for a 2018 fight.

[N/A]

wilder/breazeale, does it have a date or venue yet but they have agreed fight in principle.
Do you think at all?

They haven't agreed to fight in principle. That is a lie Hearn made up months ago to trick AJ fans into believing Wilder didn't want to fight AJ next.

There is a tentative date for Wilder's next fight, but Breazeale isn't the preferred opponent. The longer they delay the in house mandatory, the longer they delay there being a non-in house mandatory later on.