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  • EnglishOxide
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    #41
    Wilder has been around for 10 years.

    In that time he has ducked Haye, Fury, Klitschko, Whyte and Joshua.

    He's a ****ing coward.

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    • P4Pdunny
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      #42
      We knew this fight werent happening this year man

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      • Ray*
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        #43
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        There is money in a Fury fight so if Joshua messes around long enough that could occur.

        Parker can still work for Wilder because of how the Joshua fight went, he could try to outdo Joshua and end up fine with that also.

        Wilder has done just fine with his career and really it has gone the only way it could be and be successful. Most didn't think he would make it to this point anyway so they did pretty good all things considered.
        At 32 i dont consider his career succesful so far, Unless the Fury fight is happening in amercia then i doubt either fighter makes 5m dollars from it.

        Parker/Wilder should have happen then not now after losing his belt. This are some of the steps his team should have taken in his career. They stagnate Wilder's career and that is the biggest frustration so far.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #44
          Originally posted by Ray*
          At 32 i dont consider his career succesful so far, Unless the Fury fight is happening in amercia then i doubt either fighter makes 5m dollars from it.

          Parker/Wilder should have happen then not now after losing his belt. This are some of the steps his team should have taken in his career. They stagnate Wilder's career and that is the biggest frustration so far.
          Most thought he would be nothing so how is his career not a success?

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            #45
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            Most thought he would be nothing so how is his career not a success?
            Not sure who thought he would be nothing. Maybe 10 years ago when he came on the scene.

            His career in 10 years with 40 fights and two notable names isn't a successful career IMHO. If Malik scott has that resume/record then maybe i can class him as a sucess because he has less skills/power.

            Wilder on the other hand had everything to make him the Top HW in the world over the last 5 years. But nope his team failed him, its only now that people are talking about him and thats even due to Anthony Joshua.

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            • Oshio
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              #46
              Wilder has plenty options if he would agree to fight them Dillian Whyte, Alexander Povetkin, Joseph Parker, Big Baby Miller, Tyson Fury, who else? Grandpa Ortiz II

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                #47
                Joshua said I want all the belts I will spark wilder what a joke it's as plain as the nose on my face he wants no part of wilder the fight will never happen

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Corelone
                  AJ can come and get it. What am I misunderstanding? Wilder has 50 million dollars with AJ's name on it. Wilder is a little skinny guy too. Sounds like easy money for mr muscles.
                  Sorry I just meant it's Showtime's money and they're offering it on the basis of signing Joshua. When I read your previous post it seemed like you thought it was Wilder's money or that he was the one offering it?

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    Not sure who thought he would be nothing. Maybe 10 years ago when he came on the scene.

                    His career in 10 years with 40 fights and two notable names isn't a successful career IMHO. If Malik scott has that resume/record then maybe i can class him as a sucess because he has less skills/power.

                    Wilder on the other hand had everything to make him the Top HW in the world over the last 5 years. But nope his team failed him, its only now that people are talking about him and thats even due to Anthony Joshua.
                    Pretty much no one thought he would be anything his career went the way it has because he needed to develop. You are being very revisionist because a lot of things really only went the way they could go rather than some pie in the sky view, Wilder has done very well for himself.

                    Most people thought he would fold at the first sign of trouble, did he? Most people thought he would not even get past guys like Scott due to how his style looks. Are you denying these things were the prevailing opinions on Wilder for like his whole career? Because I have followed him the whole way, the way you are talking is like you are judging based on the last 2 years rather than the whole picture

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      Pretty much no one thought he would be anything his career went the way it has because he needed to develop. You are being very revisionist because a lot of things really only went the way they could go rather than some pie in the sky view, Wilder has done very well for himself.

                      Most people thought he would fold at the first sign of trouble, did he? Most people thought he would not even get past guys like Scott due to how his style looks. Are you denying these things were the prevailing opinions on Wilder for like his whole career? Because I have followed him the whole way, the way you are talking is like you are judging based on the last 2 years rather than the whole picture
                      I didn't think he would fold on his first test, his first test for me was against Bermane and he passed that test, maybe am overrating Wilder, if 10 years at 32 years old is succes to you then cool, to me its not.

                      He should be the man at HW IMHO not just now but from like 2/3 years ago. Hence why i didn't think his team enough for his profile.

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