Comments Thread For: Hearn: Without Joshua, Wilder's Future is Not Too Bright or Rosy

[Ray*]

Wilder is not stiff and robotic like Klitchko but very quick and athletic coupled with a dynamite punch. Fury could not dance circles around Wilder as he did against Klitchko but would have to at some point trade punches. This is when the fight would end and in dramatic fashion.

Am definitely going with Fury. If he has anything left he would outbox Wilder.

[juggernaut666]

they offered 50mil to aj for the biggest fight in boxing and it was turned down. so sad, will u call out hearn for lying saying wilder never fought outside of the u.s.???????

When did Hearn state Wilder never fought in the U.K ?


How wouldn't he know that is a better question .


Im starting to think maybe you are on here deliberately posting spam ? lol


Your posts never change

There easily refuted

You take points and bend them to suit a view constantly when there debunked only for you to go off a mindless rant how no one wants to see the fight ? lol

[Ray*]

Wilder couldn't fight Martin due to his mando being ordered already. Martin win the belt on Wilders undercard. Martin's manager admitted that they took the highest offer available anyway which was Hearns $5M+ offer. As for Parker, recall Wilder broke his hand and tore his bicep against the Povetkin replacement. He returned in Feb 2017 to defeat Washington and immediately called out Parker. Who was sked to fight Fury. Fury pulled out and Wilder tried to step in but was rebuffed.

As far as moving him commercially, there was no way he was gonna get commercial love in the US with Ward who is as clean cut as they come out there and Jon Jones prior to recent incidents. Besides, it's tough to market fighters in the US.

Wilder and Martin fought on the same card in 2016 when Martin won the IBF belt. Wilder next fight was a Voluntary against Arreola. They both had the same manager (Al haymon) before that Arreola fight. (Missed opportunity to get that belt off Martin).

After the Arreola fight he fought Gerald washington (Another Voluntary), so his mandatory wasn't really call into question here.

Parker won his vacant WBO in December 2016, Wilder fought in february 2017 against Gerald washington.. (Another missed opportunity by his team to get that belt off Parker ASAP).

An HW like WIlder who is american with a KO record and power wouldn't be too difficult to market with some managers/promoters.

I personally think Wilder has done a lot for himself, his team however has let him down previously until now. I think this is why they are now accelerating their work, especially find that $50M for AJ.

[jglvz256]

Lol so wilder has never fought outsise the us???? Very interesting being that he fought in the uk vs harrison, look what you all have resorted to instead of wanting to see the best fights smh NOT ONE OF YOU AJ/HEARN FANBOYS WILL CALL HEARN ON THIS

Yep, he beat Harrison in Sheffield.

That's still Wilder's best win actually...

[uppercut510]

Yep, he beat Harrison in Sheffield.

That's still Wilder's best win actually...

well if aj took the fight he could become wilders best win

[4truth]

and how is Joshua's future looking if gets stopped in Russia?

[uppercut510]

When did Hearn state Wilder never fought in the U.K ?


How wouldn't he know that is a better question .


Im starting to think maybe you are on here deliberately posting spam ? lol


Your posts never change

There easily refuted

You take points and bend them to suit a view constantly when there debunked only for you to go off a mindless rant how no one wants to see the fight ? lol

it wasn't hearn that was an accident

[Ake-Dawg]

Wilder and Martin fought on the same card in 2016 when Martin won the IBF belt. Wilder next fight was a Voluntary against Arreola. They both had the same manager (Al haymon) before that Arreola fight. (Missed opportunity to get that belt off Martin).

After the Arreola fight he fought Gerald washington (Another Voluntary), so his mandatory wasn't really call into question here.

Parker won his vacant WBO in December 2016, Wilder fought in february 2017 against Gerald washington.. (Another missed opportunity by his team to get that belt off Parker ASAP).

An HW like WIlder who is american with a KO record and power wouldn't be too difficult to market with some managers/promoters.

I personally think Wilder has done a lot for himself, his team however has let him down previously until now. I think this is why they are now accelerating their work, especially find that $50M for AJ.

Did you forget that Martin fought Joshua April 2016? 2nd shortest title reign in history. The belt was gone. Hearn swooped in immediately and bought the belt.

Did you ignore the fact that Wilder was injured and was fighting Wawryck/Washington as a tune up. Are you also ignoring that Parker signed to fight Fury, his mando, then that fight drug out as Parker did not choose to unify with Wilder upon request. So you're saying Wilders people erred by not getting him in the ring with Parker as his first fight coming off a broken right hand and torn right bicep?

[davefromvancouv]

Honestly while Wilder is quite a long way behind Joshua in terms of clout, he's the one with more career momentum as of this moment. He's just come off a really exciting win over a top guy that nobody else was interested in fighting and knocked him out, and prior to that he had that really photogenic one-round destruction of Stiverne, who, despite the fact that we all know he didn't belong in there, was a former champion. Joshua did grab another title from a well-known and credible opponent in his last fight, but he went the distance and it was a pretty scrappy and dull fight that didn't live up to its PPV billing. Against Takam, a last-minute standin who, despite being a credible opponent to those in the know, was a pretty unknown quantity to casuals. As it was it was another fairly ugly performance with Joshua struggling in parts, ending with a disappointing stoppage that drew boos from the crowd. Obviously the memory of that great Klitschko fight is still there but more drab performances will start to fade that and stall his career. While he holds the high hand over Wilder in terms of overall popularity and financial power, in terms of recent performances Wilder clearly holds the advantage, which casts Joshua / Hearn's obvious reluctance to make the fight in a really bad light, hemming and hawing and attempting to price the other party out of negotiations just looks like you're scared when the opponent has been looking like a monster in recent fights.

The advantage that he does have is that he can quell those fears. I think that Povetkin fight is a one-sided matchup, but the fact remains that Povetkin has held a belt and is a known quantity the world over. Knock him out spectacularly and the recent crap fights will be instantly forgotten. Meanwhile, Wilder has Breazele on the table. Breazele is decent enough but not well known, plus he's tough, meaning that it'd be tough to score a spectacular KO. Wilder could enhance his rep by finishing him faster than Joshua did, but he doesn't stand as much to gain as Joshua does against Povetkin. Then if negotiations resume after both fights, assuming both win, Joshua's side gets to negotiate from a position of renewed strength.

Honestly typing all that made me want to throw up in my own mouth, the promoter mentality is barely even human.

Wilder is in a very tricky position. It's so easy to be avoided by champions and top-level contenders when you're as dangerous as he is. Still hoping against hope that they compromise and the fight is made next.

[sayf]

Not true. The Tyson fury fight is bigger than wilder over here so there’s that too. Plus it gives him the opportunity to shut up those who say fury is the real champion.

Tyson is the one I was referring to when I said "not ready for the next year or two". He's really the only other threat on the horizon for either fighter.

I don't want things to be held up between wilder and Joshua until Fury is back to fill fitness physically and mentally. Let's see how he does in this fight before we declare him well and truly back.