Comments Thread For: Golovkin, Hopkins, Monzon: The Record at Middleweight

[Dr Rumack]

Can't mention Golovkin in the same breath as the other two.

[Butch.McRae]

How many A+ fighters has Golovkin faced? Let's say one in Canelo and he had been campaigning below 160lbs. I don't blame Golovkin for his era being mediocre. What can he do about it apart from jump in a time machine and fight Tommy and Marvin or Gerald and Julian?

Canelo is not an A+ fighter. He's B+ at best.

Historically, he doesn't stack up with A fighters at all. Lol

[Raggamuffin]

This shouldn’t be a defense. And I don’t consider GGs reign greater than Monzon or Hop because he never became the lineal MW champion. I have to respect his record but his reign can’t be compared to guys who have become the lineal MW champion.

[kafkod]

Counting an interim belt is b.s. and we all know that. Not even worth debating.

The interim belt isn't included in his defences record.

[istt]

Hopkins two biggest wins were against true welterweights, not middleweights, Trinidad and de la Hoya. Hopkins has a hard head and used dirty tactics but GGG would have taken him out. Hopkins was always a bore to watch while GGG tries to put on a show for the fans every time out.

[Shadoww702]

Canelo is not an A+ fighter. He's B+ at best.

Historically, he doesn't stack up with A fighters at all. Lol

I consider him A- bit can see B+... One thing I like is he's getting better and better every fight.

He's got some good combos and head movement. Also hits hard enough you have to respect it. I mean he lit GGG up quite a few times. I've never seen GGG reluctant to go in on anyone until Canelo.

[Robbie Barrett]

No, he wasn't "elevated" to anything by the WBA.

He won the interim title, then the actual title was declared vacant when Sturm was elevated to super champion.

GGG then fought for the vacant title against Tapia and KO'd him in 3.

"WBA "regular" middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin defends his title against Nilson Julio Tapia on Thursday at the Sport Complex “Daulet” in Astana, Kazakhstan. Three days prior to this appointment, Golovkin is still training very hard to get ready."

https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-gennady-golovkin-trains-tapia-title-defense--33817

I'm sure i've corrected you on this before but you continue repeating incorrect info.

[Shadoww702]

And what the HELL is a PRIME GGG??? Is that when he was DESTROYING Tomatoe Cans, Bums, and Taxi Drivers?? Or is that when he wasnt The BUMINATOR when he fought guys with a pulse like jacobs/Canelo???

[Butch.McRae]

The interim belt isn't included in his defences record.

He won the interim belt from Nunez, then it was changed to "Regular" and he defended it against Tapia next.

Was levated to "Super" against Geale.

That was an interim title. His first 10 defenses were with the "Regular" title. He was not the true title holder.

That is a fact. I don't consider Danny Jacobs a champion for the same reason.

[Ray Corso]

Robinson
Monzon
Hagler
Grebb
Cerdan
LaMotta
Fitzsimmons
Ketchell
Williams (Holman)
Burley

My top ten and Hopkins isn't in my top twenty. If your counting "title defensive's" then you can rate him high. However I watch the films and I compare skills and willingness and Bernard would RUN against any of my top ten.
He was a good boxer and knew his own abilities very well.
He was no fighter and never fought at a high level.

Ray