Do you guys understand AJ is the A side?

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  • LacedUp
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    #41
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Oh for sure. That's a perfectly reasonable position. I'm not saying Hearn should accept the offer. All I'm saying is that his excuses for not accepting are nonsense.

    The real reasons are precisely what you're describing. He has the A-side and no matter how much money Wilder offers, Hearn is going to be reluctant to give up control of the promotion.
    but he clearly says he's very interested, just want to have a meeting to sort out the details .

    Surely any ****** on the face of the planet understands that position?

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    • Curt Henning
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      #42
      "my worry is for Deontay Wilder" Hearn said on Thursday

      hahahahahaha...that one is one of my favorites

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      • lex_fugitive
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        #43
        Originally posted by lizard_man
        AJ and Hearn will give wilder an offer. He can accept or not.

        Wilder can offer $100M for all they care. They need to understand Hearn and AJ are going to control the promotion for the fight if and when it gets made.
        Apparently AJ is unaware of this. He said give him a guarantee of $50 million and he will sign that day.

        Then have Hearn send a realistic offer. A flat fee of $12.5 for a fight that will do close to $100 million???? Yea, Hearn has said for the fight, Wilder has to accept flat fee of $12.5 million which will give AJ over 80 percent of the purse. Seriously???

        It does not matter who the A side is, until Betty is willing to make the fight.

        All everyone is saying is repeating what Joshua himself has said. AJ does not know he is the A side, because he wants a $50 million guarantee. He got it and tweeted out lets do this! Betty is the one holding this up. At least come with a split. Betty gave Parker over 30% but he won't give Wilder 15%???

        Tell AJ. All we are doing is repeating his words.

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          #44
          Originally posted by New England
          hearn recognizes the built in market and finances of the country where it's easy as hell to promote a tall, black american HW with knockout power. it will take very little investment, and it's acutally already tstarting to happen organically. hearn knows that wilder can be promoted into a ppv star overnight. he's a HW FFS, this is the country that bought 4-5 million ppvs to watch a welterweight they hated .

          i don't care if you don't understand it, again. eddie hearn absolutely does. the guy is not dumb. this fight will be bigger in two years, and he's trying to push it off until then. and guess where it will be the biggest? it's not a stadium in england where most of the seats cost 100 dollars, i assure you. again, joshua vs klitschko did 8 million at the gate .



          las vegas isn't the mecca of boxing, guys. casino's in las vegas don't litearlly bid on the right to host your fight. a british HW has a higher upside than an american one. this guy in chat knows what he's talking about .
          You are switching topics ?.

          Not once did i say the fight wasnt going to be bigger IF it was built up .

          Hearn said at the moment it is a MARGINAL difference , i again corrected you .

          Klitchko was a PPV draw .

          Vegas cant magically create popularity for any fighter ,maybe you dont realise but Hearn doesnt promote Wilder and somehow is Wilder going to become this huge PPV star when hes already 40 fights in and may lose to Joshua ?


          If Hearn was trying to push it off he wouldn't have made an offer in the first place where they could have accepted or TRY to have a REAL negotiations meeting would he ?

          He wanted the fight sooner than later .

          If Finkel wanted the fight next why did he put in HIS letter they are looking at the END of the year ?

          See you can keep switching from topic too topic but the original one of A side and PPV shows you dont know what you're talking about .

          And talking about U.K seat costs that range in different prices tells me your just a puppet ,posting B.S straw man points ....o.k im done here with you . lol
          Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-30-2018, 09:51 PM.

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            #45
            I would say AJ is the slight A-side but only slightly A-side. The reason I say that is he could pack Wembley to the parking lot and still not make as much as he could fighting Wilder at T-Mobile in Vegas most likely. And he's an unknown in the US. Wilder is the much bigger name stateside..

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              #46
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              but he clearly says he's very interested
              What do you want him to say? He's a promoter. It's his job to lie. If he was actually very interested, he'd say "we'll accept the money if everything else turns out to be kosher." That's all he has to say to get Haymon & Finkel to sit down with him.

              But Hearn is very deliberately avoiding saying that he'd accept the money if everything else is to his liking. He's avoiding saying that because he doesn't want the deal.

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                #47
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                What do you want him to say? He's a promoter. It's his job to lie. If he was actually very interested, he'd say "we'll accept the money if everything else turns out to be kosher." That's all he has to say to get Haymon & Finkel to sit down with him.

                But Hearn is very deliberately avoiding saying that he'd accept the money if everything else is to his liking. He's avoiding saying that because he doesn't want the deal.
                " It's his job to lie. "


                Are you sure thats not your job ?

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                • Illmatic94
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                  #48
                  "give me $50million I'll sign the fight tomorrow."

                  His words.

                  The offer came and they never accepted.

                  Send us a contract? wtf is a contract gonna say without a purse agreement?

                  Hearn got his hoe card pulled because if he truly believed this was a $40million fight he would've jumped on the $50million like a whore in heat. Yet he didn't.. He knows damn well this fight generates way more than $40-$50million.

                  Now Hearn is talking about making a new offer which more than likely will be a percentage split. Making all the AJ backers here look foolish for suggesting Wilder should've been grateful with $12.5 million flat and accepted.

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                  • LacedUp
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    What do you want him to say? He's a promoter. It's his job to lie. If he was actually very interested, he'd say "we'll accept the money if everything else turns out to be kosher." That's all he has to say to get Haymon & Finkel to sit down with him.

                    But Hearn is very deliberately avoiding saying that he'd accept the money if everything else is to his liking. He's avoiding saying that because he doesn't want the deal.
                    You're at the level of fanboy that's simply too much to discuss with.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Illmatic94
                      "give me $50million I'll sign the fight tomorrow."

                      His words.

                      The offer came and they never accepted.

                      Send us a contract? wtf is a contract gonna say without a purse agreement?

                      Hearn got his hoe card pulled because if he truly believed this was a $40million fight he would've jumped on the $50million like a whore in heat. Yet he didn't.. He knows damn well this fight generates way more than $40-$50million.

                      Now Hearn is talking about making a new offer which more than likely will be a percentage split. Making all the AJ backers here look foolish for suggesting Wilder should've been grateful with $12.5 million flat and accepted.
                      If Wilder accepted the 12.5 instead of his usual 1.4 Million paydays we would have had a fight signed so who are the actual fools ?

                      The fans that want to see the fight ?

                      OR

                      The fans that became Wilder accountants ?






                      A money agreement is not made over Emailing its made in meetings where paper work is looked over . If it is agreed to then a Money agreement is made and contracts are negotiated .


                      Its kind of hard to do that when Hearn is denied all these things isnt it ?




                      Team Wilder did nothing but delay the fight , if he won under Hearns deal he makes 35 million minimal with the rematch claus ......


                      So yea Wilder must not think he can win right since hes taking a pay cut in his deal ?
                      Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-30-2018, 10:34 PM.

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