Comments Thread For: Hearn: How Did WBC Order Whyte-Ortiz, Wilder-Breazeale Next?

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Another su****ious thing is why call a Wilder/Breazeale fight a mandatory when Wilder just beat Stiverne in November 2017 as a mando? Shouldn’t that fight be a Voluntary?

There's nothing su****ious about it. Breazeale won a final eliminator on November 4.

Wilder fought his mandatory November 4.

Their mandatory fight isn't due yet, but you don't have to wait until the maximum deadline to fight your mandatory. If AJ won't fight Wilder, Wilder might as well get his mandatory out of the way.

[The Akbar One]

Hearn should file a lawsuit if Sulaiman sent him an email stating such.

[uppercut510]

So is aj wilder next?

[kafkod]

It makes a lot of sense and was already explained last year. Stiverne agreed to risk his mandatory position against Breazeale, just like Povetkin did against David Price on a recent matchroom show.

When Ortiz failed a test, resulting in Stiverne being moved to the main event, it meant Breazeale already had a signed deal for a final eliminator, but no opponent. The WBC allowed him to face the highest available contender so he wouldn't have his opportunity taken away through no fault of his own.

That is how Breazeale ended up in a final eliminator. Whyte could have had the fight if he wanted, but obviously didn't want the fight on such short notice. But that's the reason Whyte got skipped over for that final eliminator. Whyte was then offered the next final eliminator.

That doesn't explain why the WBC told Eddie Hearn that Breazeale vs Molina was not a final eliminator when he asked them about it.

Maybe they just forgot until Haymon sent them an envelope with something inside it to jog their memory?

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That doesn't explain why the WBC told Eddie Hearn that Breazeale vs Molina was not a final eliminator when he asked them about it.

Maybe they just forgot until Haymon sent them an envelope with something inside it to jog their memory?

could have been miscommunication. a lot of people work for the wbc and it was a fluid situation due to the ortiz failure.

sulaiman told me it was a final eliminator and i posted that here at the time. was hearn told otherwise? possibly. but the official wbc schedule clearly stated it was a final eliminator.

[Curt Henning]

Everyone is funneling Anthony toward Wilder and they don’t like it lmao. This is how it goes when you think that you’re bigger than the sport. When you’re seen as reluctant, **** starts to NOT go your way.

yup...I been telling people that.....if AJ don't wanna man up eventually the public, and the powers that be, will put the pressure on.....so wilder can really just sit back and wait for AJ to show up eventually

[kafkod]

could have been miscommunication. a lot of people work for the wbc and it was a fluid situation due to the ortiz failure.

sulaiman told me it was a final eliminator and i posted that here at the time. was hearn told otherwise? possibly. but the official wbc schedule clearly stated it was a final eliminator.

No, it was the promoter who said it was a final eliminator, not Sulaiman. Hearn asked Sulaiman himself about that and was told it was an eliminator, but not a final elimintor.

[Oshio]

Everyone should shut the hole up here and stop making assertions of what they know nothing about! All we want is for Sulaimon to speak!!! We haven't recovered from the Canelogate and WBC's support for cheats and now, this.

[Ray*]

In hindsight, none of this would have mattered if Hearn had simply agreed to guarantee that if Wilder beat Whyte, Joshua would be next. In that scenario, EVERYBODY is happy. Wilder, Hearn, Joshua, WBC, Whyte, and most importantly THE FANS.

Again, I don’t want to get into this Joshua/Wilder thing. This is about Whyte as the number 1 mando. Just because they have the same promoter doesn’t mean nothing. They aren’t twins.

[Ake-Dawg]

No, it was the promoter who said it was a final eliminator, not Sulaiman. Hearn asked Sulaiman himself about that and was told it was an eliminator, but not a final elimintor.

Even if it wasn't a final eliminator fight doesn't paragraph (b) allow them to pick Breazeale over Whyte? Could they have, by virtue of Whyte turning down the opportunity to fight in the elimination fight, bypass him even though he is the #1 rated HW behind the champion?

3.7 Designation of Mandatory Challengers. The WBC shall always have the discretion to designate a mandatory challenger by:

(a) ordering a final elimination bout of two qualified contenders; or

(b) designating a Qualified Challenger as the official mandatory challenger.

For the avoidance of doubt, the highest rated (or the highest rated available) boxer in the WBC rankings is never, solely by virtue of such position, the official mandatory challenger. Notwithstanding anything to the contrary, including any communications attributed to the WBC, no boxer shall be considered as, or claim any privileges associated with, being a mandatory challenger unless (i) the boxer has been officially designated as such by the WBC President or the President’s designated representative, and (ii) the WBC Board of Governors has voted to authorize or ratify the designation of such boxer as mandatory challenger.