Comments Thread For: Hearn: How Did WBC Order Whyte-Ortiz, Wilder-Breazeale Next?

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So the WBC made an error in this email to this Journalist (Michael Benson)? Because he was NOT the only person that query the WBC at the time.

That's possible. There was certainly conflicting information floating around. The only person I spoke with from the WBC was Moro and he was very clear to me that it was a final eliminator. Which is why I was so adamant on this site back then that it was a final eliminator. Everybody told me I was wrong and they backed it up with online reports claiming otherwise, but I can't comment on what the WBC told other people because I only spoke to the president.

We don't know the time stamp of when that WBC representative replied to that journalist. Things could have changed. That representative may have been misinformed or had outdated information. Or the WBC may have been facing legal threats from Breazeale. Who knows.

So again why would Whyte come out and be upset? Could it be he felt shaft in seeing the number 2 guy getting a shot over him? Or could it be the fact that the WBC are mandating a Wilder/Breazeale fight as a mandatory.... when Wilder has already fought a mandatory in November 2017.

Not saying Whyte shouldn't be upset if his promoter misled him or the WBC misled him. But the WBC was very clear publicly at the time that it was a final eliminator. Just like Hearn lied to the public, he may have lied to Whyte as well. I have no idea.

Hearn and Haymon were clearly playing sanctioning body chess last year after Ortiz failed his test. No matter what the WBC decided, one of them was going to be pissed. In these situations, sanctioning bodies usually decide whatever minimizes their exposure to a lawsuit. So clearly the WBC believes Breazeale would have had a more actionable position than Whyte has now.

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No, it was the promoter who said it was a final eliminator, not Sulaiman.

First of all, I was personally told by Sulaiman that it was a final eliminator. Second of all, it was publicly confirmed on the official WBC website as a final eliminator.

Hearn asked Sulaiman himself about that and was told it was an eliminator, but not a final elimintor.

That may or may not be true. If Hearn said that, he could be lying. Or, Hearn may not have said that and you misunderstood him. Either way, I have no way of knowing if Sulaiman told him that or not and neither do you.

[Ray*]

That's possible. There was certainly conflicting information floating around. The only person I spoke with from the WBC was Moro and he was very clear to me that it was a final eliminator. Which is why I was so adamant on this site back then that it was a final eliminator. Everybody told me I was wrong and they backed it up with online reports claiming otherwise, but I can't comment on what the WBC told other people because I only spoke to the president.

We don't know the time stamp of when that WBC representative replied to that journalist. Things could have changed. That representative may have been misinformed or had outdated information. Or the WBC may have been facing legal threats from Breazeale. Who knows.




Not saying Whyte shouldn't be upset if his promoter misled him or the WBC misled him. But the WBC was very clear publicly at the time that it was a final eliminator. Just like Hearn lied to the public, he may have lied to Whyte as well. I have no idea.

Hearn and Haymon were clearly playing sanctioning body chess last year after Ortiz failed his test. No matter what the WBC decided, one of them was going to be pissed. In these situations, sanctioning bodies usually decide whatever minimizes their exposure to a lawsuit. So clearly the WBC believes Breazeale would have had a more actionable position than Whyte has now.

So the WBC lied and are corrupted, just like I thought.

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First of all, I was personally told by Sulaiman that it was a final eliminator. Second of all, it was publicly confirmed on the official WBC website as a final eliminator.




That may or may not be true. If Hearn said that, he could be lying. Or, Hearn may not have said that and you misunderstood him. Either way, I have no way of knowing if Sulaiman told him that or not and neither do you.

Stop acting the fool mate.

[yammy25]

First of all, I was personally told by Sulaiman that it was a final eliminator. Second of all, it was publicly confirmed on the official WBC website as a final eliminator.




That may or may not be true. If Hearn said that, he could be lying. Or, Hearn may not have said that and you misunderstood him. Either way, I have no way of knowing if Sulaiman told him that or not and neither do you.

I love your tactics of tagging hearn for being a liar at every opportunity you get. Why couldnt sulaiman have lied? lol

You're saying that hearn has come out on numerous interviews in the last 24 hours and lied about that he has received email and personal confirmation from sulaiman at the time that it was NOT a final eliminator.

Why state that the WBC will be receiving more correspondence from matchroom regarding the issue because they feel it is an incorrect judgement and it shouldnt be going ahead with Whytes reward being only "2nd mandatory".

If you are saying Hearn is lying, then what he is saying is somewhat slanderous and that absolutely would not help his poisiton with the WBC, his fighters position or future endeavours with that sanctioning body.

You hide behind an account of "3" different people, and refuse to divulge who you are, your position or what entity you work on behalf of, yet you have the gall to suggest other people are liars and use " i spoke to sulaiman too" as a makeweight for your argument..


But Hearns lying, absolutely... or hes got is mixed up, but it cant be sulaiman, because i spoke to him. I dont know for sure... but i'll damn well imply hearns a liar over anyone else.

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I love your tactics of tagging hearn for being a liar at every opportunity you get. Why couldnt sulaiman have lied? lol

Sulaiman very well could have lied. I don't discount that possibility at all. The reason I have to repeatedly point out how often Hearn lies is because he's so charismatic in those IFL videos that people just believe anything he says and use him saying something as proof that something is true. So clearly those people need to be reminded that something isn't automatically true just because Hearn said so.

You're saying that hearn has come out on numerous interviews in the last 24 hours and lied about that he has received email and personal confirmation from sulaiman at the time that it was NOT a final eliminator.

I've seen Hearn say that he was told by the WBC that it wasn't a final eliminator. I have not seen him say that Sulaiman personally told him that. Doesn't mean he hasn't said it, I just haven't seen it. If Hearn did in fact say he was personally told by Sulaiman, it's very possible Hearn is lying and very possible he's telling the truth. It's not like every single thing Hearn says it a lie. Part of why he's so brilliant is that he weaves lie & truth so well. All I've ever said is that something shouldn't be automatically assumed as fact simply because Hearn said it.

Why state that the WBC will be receiving more correspondence from matchroom regarding the issue because they feel it is an incorrect judgement and it shouldnt be going ahead with Whytes reward being only "2nd mandatory".

I'm sure Matchroom will object. Promoters & sanctioning bodies discuss things every day, making objections, lobbying for rulings, etc.

If you are saying Hearn is lying, then what he is saying is somewhat slanderous and that absolutely would not help his poisiton with the WBC, his fighters position or future endeavours with that sanctioning body.

I'm not saying Hearn is lying. I'm saying I won't automatically assume he's telling the truth when it's so common for him to lie.

You hide behind an account of "3" different people, and refuse to divulge who you are, your position or what entity you work on behalf of, yet you have the gall to suggest other people are liars and use " i spoke to sulaiman too" as a makeweight for your argument..

And if you could prove I was lying every day, the way I can prove that Hearn lies every day, then I would understand someone being less likely to automatically believe something I say.

Sulaiman telling me it was final doesn't mean he didn't tell Hearn something else. But it does mean Sulaiman was telling some people it was final. Was he telling others it wasn't? Very possible. I'm not denying that possibility at all.

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How embarrassing that the head of Mismatchroom cant give his client Dillian Shyte a proper explanation as to why the World Boxing Council has decided to order a eliminator with Luis 'King-Kong' Ortiz.

And they call this guy the best promoter in the game?! pfft dont make me laugh! I know that there are a bunch of salty Brits that are going to come in here crying corruption and condemning the WBC, and I could shut the noise down right now, but wont.

Carry on taking L's you clowns are pathetic!

They don't mind fighting Ortiz if it means the winner is the mandatory. But not if they are the second mandatory and have to wait over a year to get a shot at the title.

You could shut the noise down? You're a troll on a forum, so no, you can't shut anything down. But continue in being deluded if it makes you feel better about your sad worthless life you weirdo.

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Eddie is such a ****ing Clown. This guy is a real lowlife, lying sc*mbag!

What did he lie about in this piece?

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Wilder against Breazeale, do your thing in a fight no one gives a damn about.

And what makes this clown think anybody gives a damn about Wilder fighting Dillian Shyte?

Shyte running scared shtless from Grandpa Ortiz.

He's 185 years old doe LOL

Scary ass mofo. Fight him! get stretched out like a limousine.

Whyte has no problem fighting Ortiz next if it means they get a straight shot at the WBC. But they won't because they will be the second mandatory and they won't get a shot at the title for over a year.

Understand now you little scrote?

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The WBC is corrupt. Look how they have position themselves to make money. A bunch of meaningful fights so they can collect more sanctioning fees. Even though a Whyte/Ortiz fight is interesting I don't think they should obligate Whyte to fight him to be #2 on the list.

Him and Povetkin have been fighting an winning and keep getting these eliminator fights after they were told otherwise.