41 years old Klitschko vs 38 years old Ortiz - who is a better fighter?

[Cutthroat]

I personally think that a guy like Douglas would beat Wilder and Fury. Not sure about Joshua

Douglas couldn't even beat Lou Savarese lol, it is what is dude.

Tucker, Ferguson, White, Bey, all these men beat Douglas before, Savarese beat him after.

[Sid-Knee]

If you can't debate, you can't debate.

People always say I troll but what I say comes true.

You're a freak. If you can't see that, then as I say, you're mentally ill.

[Cutthroat]

You're a freak. If you can't see that, then as I say, you're mentally ill.

I base everything off statistics and resumes. Look man, you went from trying to debate, to name calling, it's because you know you can't debate.

[zok310]

Klitch, look at his career, was a campion, bested most champions in his era.

[Raggamuffin]

Vote and discuss

Polls don't mean jack. Ortiz was the better fighter at the time and Wlad had the better career. The poll doesn't tell that story.

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Obviously Klitschko. Ortiz was some easy come/easy go with not much more significance than Stiverne or Leapai or whatever. Even a severely severely faded version of Wlad is a far more known quantity.

With that said I hope wilder KO's anthony "the walking steroid" joshua.

[lefthook2daliva]

In a comparison between Ortiz and Wlad you're asking who did Wlad beat???

Are you for real here??

Ortiz has one win against Jennings who was decent but nothing more. Wlad was the first one to beat him, and it isn't even in Wlads top 10 wins.

The madness you're coming out with should have you banned for being a massive ****head who's the equivalent of an absolute dribbler.

And take your fellow deluded Americans with you.

You take the forum clown trophy by a mile.

Congratulations son.

Anybody who reads this idiots posts and doesn't laugh should get their heads looked at. Delusion doesn't even begin to cut it.

BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH...All of that and you're unwilling to declare Wlad's best win. Nor even mitigate his 4 losses (2 by KO). Instead, you insult me personally and this country. Pretty poor showing, to be honest.

[Sidney Powell]

Klitschko, and the only reason it's even debatable is because he looked god awful against Fury and was over a year removed from his last fight.

[lefthook2daliva]

You're kidding right?

Peter (twice), Thompson twice, Byrd twice, Pulev, Povetkin, Brock, Haye, Ibragimov, Rahman, Chambers, Chagaev and the list goes on.

All of the guys above did more or equal in their pro careers than Ortiz.

Saying Ortiz is anywhere near Klitschko is downright ***ing ******ed.

Byrd is a good win. The rest? meh....

[champion4ever]

Experience wise it goes to Klitschko. Skill wise it goes to Ortiz. King Kong was the more fundamentally sound and scientific of the two fighters with a stronger amateur pedigree.

In addition, he was undefeated and has never been knocked down or out; Even as an amateur or a professional.
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Moreover, Wilder had to take some chances in this fight; By closing the distance while forcing Ortiz into some exchanges. Mainly because Deontay's left jab was neutralized as he was being badly out jabbed and out boxed by Luis Ortiz from long range.

Klitschko was washed out when he faced AJ. He already had 4 losses on his record, once he challenged Joshua for the titles, with 3 of them coming by way of knockout