Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua is Not Worldwide, Nobody Knows His Name in U.S.

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  • yoshik
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    #101
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Oh, so you're just trolling and don't want to have a serious discussion? Thanks for wasting my time.
    No trolling here buddy. You are a Deyonce fan. Plain and simple. You are going to defend your position until it kills you. Fact is, AJ is a much more popular fighter. The world stage is so much bigger outside the US. AJ makes millions to Wilders pennies. It's a case of supply and demand. Wilder hasn't fought ANYONE. The world which has been treated to a steady diet of top HWs for years prefers a HW with class, who fights the best and probably thinks Wilder is an ignorant fool. I'm telling you from EXPERIENCE and traveling outside the US that Deyonce needs to STFU and do something he can get recognized FOR. Is that succinct enough? IF he is popular anywhere outside the US it's because he is riding on AJs coattails and has a big mouth. They loved Holyfield and Tyson for a reason internationally. Wilder is not so great.

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    • yoshik
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      #102
      Originally posted by Butch.McRae
      For some reason people are ignoring Wilder's live gate and ratings for Stiverne lol I think those numbers settled any debate about his popularity.

      The guy is one or two fights (maybe some savage KOs) away from being in the PPV talk here. He will absolutely sell north of 12k tickets. I'm actually expecting 14k+ based on recent numbers for Dibellla at Barclays.

      Wilder did those Stiverne numbers against a UFC/GSP card at MSG too. Thats impressive no matter how you spin it.
      It's like you guys are making excuses for your little brother who has a learning disability. Wilder should STFU, pick better opponents and let the fans decide who he should fight. He has squandered his career.

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        #103
        Originally posted by yoshik
        Fact is, AJ is a much more popular fighter.
        Which is what I said.


        The world stage is so much bigger outside the US.
        Which is what I said.


        AJ makes millions to Wilders pennies.
        Why do you need to lie? Why not just say AJ makes more millions than Wilder does? Are you capable of a reasonable discussion?

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        • Larry the boss
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          #104
          Originally posted by johnnycontrolet
          After his fight against Klitschko more people in the US know AJ than Wilder. Wilder‘s US TV ratings even on terrestrial TV are ridiculous.
          Man Klitschko wasnt even huge in America...He could walk down the street and people would only wonder who he was due to his height

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          • juggernaut666
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            #105
            Originally posted by yoshik
            No trolling here buddy. You are a Deyonce fan. Plain and simple. You are going to defend your position until it kills you. Fact is, AJ is a much more popular fighter. The world stage is so much bigger outside the US. AJ makes millions to Wilders pennies. It's a case of supply and demand. Wilder hasn't fought ANYONE. The world which has been treated to a steady diet of top HWs for years prefers a HW with class, who fights the best and probably thinks Wilder is an ignorant fool. I'm telling you from EXPERIENCE and traveling outside the US that Deyonce needs to STFU and do something he can get recognized FOR. Is that succinct enough? IF he is popular anywhere outside the US it's because he is riding on AJs coattails and has a big mouth. They loved Holyfield and Tyson for a reason internationally. Wilder is not so great.
            Hes truly the most delusional poster in the NSB section historically , i have no doubt .


            Mr. WBC actually thinks Wilder has done the HW division good and thinks hes great bc he claims hes the most popular U.S HW in 20 years .

            What he fails to mention is the guys he beat out was Chris Byrd and Hasim Rahman ..... 2 flash in pan champions from the 2000's ...............


            Wilder is actually lucky he has social media bc he wouldn't be known much at all, bc those guys had Lewis and Klitchko to fight .

            Again # FACTS
            Last edited by juggernaut666; 02-07-2018, 07:05 PM.

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            • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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              #106
              I kinda hope ortiz stop wilder lmfao just for the LOL but then we dont get AJ vs Wilder so.......

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                #107
                Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
                I kinda hope ortiz stop wilder lmfao just for the LOL but then we dont get AJ vs Wilder so.......
                Im with you on this one , i wouldn't mind watching Wilders fans ( non boxing fans of social media ) dissapear and stfu indefinitely !


                However im picking Wilder to win and would like the better explosive /better build up super fight with Joshua .


                Unlike most i put the sport first and leave fanboyism behind .


                But man im not going to have a bad night if Wilder does get chin checked in this one , thats for SURE !

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                • Tygshsu
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  Who said they weren't decent? Why are you getting upset? The point is that Wilder is more well known in the US, as he should be.

                  Stating plain fact makes me an idiot? You sure you don't have emotional problems?
                  Is he though ?? You cannot make a fair comparison until AJ has fought in America at Prime Time

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                  • Tygshsu
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    If you want to take the position that nobody is a star in America, fine. Clearly boxing is a niche sport here.

                    But you can't point to one of the most reliable ratings draws in America and then claim nobody knows who he is unless your position is that nobody knows who any boxer is.

                    Very few homes in America has Showtime. Wilder's Showtime numbers are some of the strongest and most reliable of any fighter Showtime has had in years. Not to mention the millions more that have watched Wilder on network TV.
                    If no-one has Showtime in the US what are both Joshua and Wilder doing their.I'm getting the feeling that Showtime is similar to that of Boxnation/BT Sport(Hardcore and Secondary Boxing Channel) in the UK.With HBO being the Sky Sports Equivalent(Preimer Boxing Channel). The question is then why are both Joshua and Wilder fighting on a Secondary Channel ?

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                    • kafkod
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      Well if you had any sense, you actually would take Wilder seriously because he has a good point. Wilder is a much bigger star in America than Joshua is.

                      If Wilder is stating facts, why wouldn't you take his statement seriously?

                      Unless you're just a hater that has to take AJ's side no matter what?
                      Wilder isn't stating facts, he's spouting emotional nonsense, as usual ...

                      Nobody knows who AJ is, but "everybody wants to see him fight Wilder .. seriously?

                      What AJ said to trigger this latest tirade from Wilder - that his brand is so big in the UK that he doesn't need to fight in America - that is a fact.

                      Can you name one currently active boxer anywhere - including Canelo Alvarez - who can earn 15-20 million dollars whoever he fights?

                      If Wilder is spouting this crap to try and and drum up interest in a fight between he and AJ, then fair enough.

                      But trust me, AJ's fans are not pushing to see him fight Deontay. The HW fights everybody is talking about now over here are AJ vs Parker and Fury, not Wilder.

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