Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua is Not Worldwide, Nobody Knows His Name in U.S.

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887,000 viewers, in a country with a population the size of America, is not going to make Wilder a star, and those numbers would be regarded as a dismal flop for a non PPV fight in the UK.

If you want to take the position that nobody is a star in America, fine. Clearly boxing is a niche sport here.

But you can't point to one of the most reliable ratings draws in America and then claim nobody knows who he is unless your position is that nobody knows who any boxer is.

Very few homes in America has Showtime. Wilder's Showtime numbers are some of the strongest and most reliable of any fighter Showtime has had in years. Not to mention the millions more that have watched Wilder on network TV.

[Bobby Shaw]

WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder (39-0, 38 KOs) believes IBF, IBO, WBA world champion Anthony Joshua (20-0, 20 KOs) is basically an unknown commodity in the United States. Both champions are in training for scheduled defenses coming up next month.
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Concentrate on Ortiz sir. You shouldn't be thinking about Joshua because one second off Ortiz and you might never have the Joshua fight.

[yoshik]

How does that change a single thing I said?

Who's Deyonce Wilder?

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Who's Deyonce Wilder?

Oh, so you're just trolling and don't want to have a serious discussion? Thanks for wasting my time.

[kafkod]

If you want to take the position that nobody is a star in America, fine. Clearly boxing is a niche sport here.

Exactly, and that's why nobody with any sense is taking this latest outburst from Wilder seriously.

[yoshik]

The money in the U.S. dwarfs that from outside the USA. Everyone knows that. Knowledgeable fight fans don't pay squat, it is the casuals that count. Floyd Mayweather made almost half a billion in just two fights. In the USA. Just sayin. Make $10 mill in the UK with no legacy, or make over twice that and a true legacy.

And also, any "knowledgeable fan" knows that AJ and Wilder are the only two hw's that matter and either one in any fight that isn't against the other is a mismatch. Any knowledgeable fan knows that Wilder wants the fight and AJ does not.

Let me break it to you. AJ is ducking Wilder and the whole world knows it. Especially the knowledgeable fans. Get off AJ's c^ck and demand he step up and fight the best. Instead he will come to the USA for Miller but not for Wilder. The entire world calls that being yellow, being a scared chicken. Just sayin.

Where in the hell do you get that? IS that why AJ is making $30M a fight in the UK? Because the money is in the USA? Is that why Wilder can't crack 1M because all the money is in the USA. I bet you haven't been out of your state let alone the country. #casual

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Exactly, and that's why nobody with any sense is taking this latest outburst from Wilder seriously.

Well if you had any sense, you actually would take Wilder seriously because he has a good point. Wilder is a much bigger star in America than Joshua is.

If Wilder is stating facts, why wouldn't you take his statement seriously?

Unless you're just a hater that has to take AJ's side no matter what?

[DougalDylan]

1. I never heard AJ call out Miller.
2. If the US is where the money is at .. make a big offer (oh you can't because you have no money).
3. The reason no one is as bothered by a Wilder fight as a Wilder fan boy is because Wilder has fought bum after bum for fourty fights running from the other champs ..

Aj's last two fights where unification and a mandatory. His next fight is a unification and all the debate is will he unify again fight a mandatory or go after the lineal champion. Who else has a record like that after 20 fights??

AJ fans are feasting, Wilder fans are starving so of course they are desperate for that fight I don't blame them.

The US is where the money is at. Wilder is demanding negotations with AJ and AJ is calling out Jarrell Miller.

Beating the only other top hw is a pretty good way to get known the world over. And again, ppv's bring in big money in the U.S. Everyone knows this. Do you honestly think if his fights had a million ppv buys in the USA he wouldn't be making double what he makes now? And he does make good money now. But his legacy is being defined as avoiding the one real challenge. And is unknown in the USA.

AJ sells out stadiums, but a million people paying $70-$100 for every fight is a lot more money. But nope, no Wilder for AJ. He doesn't need Wilder. He needs Takam and Miller. lmao.

AJ is a laughingstock already. He is being laughed at and mocked the same as Thurman is for ducking Spence. But hey, he makes $15 mill so why would you want to see him fight the best?

I don't understand why AJ's fans, like you, do not want him to fight Wilder. Are you seriously that scared he will lose? What you destroy you that much, that you don't want to see the two best hw's in the world fight each other?

Get off AJ's c^ck and become a fan of boxing. Real boxing fans want to see the best fight the best. Fanboys want their fav. fighters to fight bums so they can say how great he is.

Every fighter makes "demands" that are negotiated. The difference is AJ is just saying no fight. He's not saying if Wilder does this or agrees to that, he will fight him, he is saying he won't fight Wilder.

[yoshik]

Not sure I get where you're going. I'm a lawyer so I do a fair amount of traveling, but in my opinion, Wilder is probably more known in the UK (proportionally), just based on the % of people who follow boxing and the fact the he's been marketed as AJ's future opponent. It's just an assumption.

I agree with you on that. I spend a lot of time in the Eastern Euro countries and if Wilder is known there it is because he is a future opponent of AJ. IMHO the fight scene overseas, specifically the European countries is better than here. At the very least the fighters are pros and there is little trash talking. They respect each other. IN fact, I might add that perhaps the Europeans may find Wilder a little too much with the verbal flatulation he subscribes to.

[MaksBox]

Wilder is a tool that keeps on giving.

I bet more people know of Joshua in the United States than about Wilder. lol.