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  • machotime
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    #51
    Originally posted by Hous
    Cotto punched harder, he really didn't even push Malignaggi around the ring which surprised me. Malignaggi was the better boxer because he landed the better and more frequent combinations. Does that mean Malignaggi is the better fighter? No it doesn't. Thats whats wrong with this thread. Cotto is the better puncher Malignaggi is the better boxer, Cotto beats Malignaggi 10 / 10 at this time.

    Malignaggi is clearly the better boxer but Cotto is better in the ring. Someone who claims to watch boxing is going to come in here and try to tear my arguement apart now... Most likely because they dont understand boxing styles.
    In this fight Cotto was the better fighter and boxer. When Cotto used his jab, he dominated, when Cotto did anything, he dominated, when he became inactive is when paulie was able to land the flurries without answer. Cotto neglegted his jab around the 4th or 5th round which is probably around the time that he hurt his left hand. He would drop his left and shake his arm.

    Malignaggi boxed well, but Cotto fought and boxed better.

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    • rocco1252
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      #52
      Originally posted by baya
      he looks like a chipmunk storing food for the cold months
      how bout someone who just got their wisdom teeth out? maybe cotto knocked one of Paulies wisdom teeth out and it swelled up.

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      • Hous
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        #53
        Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
        LOL, you are obbessed. Thats why you hang out at the Miguelcotto forum with a different username. Cotto will outbox Hatton, using his jab, that is all that he needs to win.
        What? I was there for the round by round because BoxingScene went down and ******** boxing banned me for asking if anyone was from BoxingScene in their chat...

        I like Cotto dip****! I just give props to Malignaggi, he fought a tougher fight and did well. He lost clearly tough.

        Cotto fought better but Malignaggi boxed better, its not hard to understand.

        And About Cotto vs. Hatton, neither is what I call a boxer, Hatton can box but he seems to swarm alot in his other fights. Constant pressure. Cotto is a puncher.

        Being a better boxer doesn't win fights, styles win fights. Being a better boxer will win a fight when its boxer vs boxer when they are equal at other skills. Boxers are more technical, tend to be faster and master combinations if you didn't know.

        Baya - That Chipmunk comment made me laugh my ass off! Good K when I find a post by you.
        Last edited by Hous; 06-13-2006, 02:04 PM.

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        • No-mas-tias
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          #54
          No one mentions the reasons Cotto couldn't KO Paul are that Cotto hurt his hand in the 6th or 7th round, he'll have his hand checked when the swelling comes down and Malignaggi looked like Hatton, holding so much the ref should have taken points from him.

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          • hollister
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            #55
            Cotto didn't beat Paulie at his own game, because Paulie rarely showed any intention of boxing during the entire fight. Cotto landed his jab ONLY because Paulie stood there in front of him and tried to trade every time Cotto threw anything. Paulie could have easily made a snorefest out of it and got a draw or maybe eeked out a decision, but he chose to try to fight Cotto until it became too much in the last couple of rounds. Even when Paulie did use his legs, he only took a step or two back, nothing like he has in the past. As for the weights, they had no unofficial weights that I know of, but you can look at them in the fight and see that Cotto easily outweighs Malignaggi by 10 or 15 lbs. I guess overall you could say that Cotto is the better fighter because he'll still have some power at 147 to rely on when he gets his bell rung, but not the better "boxer" per se.

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            • BadMagick
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              #56
              Originally posted by hollister
              Cotto didn't beat Paulie at his own game, because Paulie rarely showed any intention of boxing during the entire fight. Cotto landed his jab ONLY because Paulie stood there in front of him and tried to trade every time Cotto threw anything. Paulie could have easily made a snorefest out of it and got a draw or maybe eeked out a decision, but he chose to try to fight Cotto until it became too much in the last couple of rounds. Even when Paulie did use his legs, he only took a step or two back, nothing like he has in the past. As for the weights, they had no unofficial weights that I know of, but you can look at them in the fight and see that Cotto easily outweighs Malignaggi by 10 or 15 lbs. I guess overall you could say that Cotto is the better fighter because he'll still have some power at 147 to rely on when he gets his bell rung, but not the better "boxer" per se.
              I really thought that Malinaggi was gonna come in and really OUTBOX Cotto, because I still think he has the ability to, and you could see it in a lot of the rounds. He just didn't fight his typical fight of moving in and out, peppering him with quick shots, and not getting hit so much.

              Either way, I thought it was a really good fight, and a really close fight, too. Had there been no knockdown, I'd probably be in favor of a draw, maybe a win for Malinaggie. I was very impressed by him throughout the whole thing.

              What do you guys think of this as a FOY candidate? I haven't read any of the other threads, as I just saw the fight today, so....

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              • hollister
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                #57
                Originally posted by BadMagick
                I really thought that Malinaggi was gonna come in and really OUTBOX Cotto, because I still think he has the ability to, and you could see it in a lot of the rounds. He just didn't fight his typical fight of moving in and out, peppering him with quick shots, and not getting hit so much.

                Either way, I thought it was a really good fight, and a really close fight, too. Had there been no knockdown, I'd probably be in favor of a draw, maybe a win for Malinaggie. I was very impressed by him throughout the whole thing.

                What do you guys think of this as a FOY candidate? I haven't read any of the other threads, as I just saw the fight today, so....
                Yeah I thought so too, and I noticed glimpses of the Paulie that I thought was going to show up, but I guess Paulie was determined to prove he was a man lol
                And I'd definately say it was the surprise of the year, I mean there were tons of people saying that Paulie would run and eventually get KO'd. He stood right in front of Cotto for almost the entire fight and STILL finished it. I think he'll probably get more fights this way than if he'd run the whole time though.
                He gained a ton of respect for what he did.

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                • machotime
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by hollister
                  Cotto didn't beat Paulie at his own game, because Paulie rarely showed any intention of boxing during the entire fight. Cotto landed his jab ONLY because Paulie stood there in front of him and tried to trade every time Cotto threw anything. Paulie could have easily made a snorefest out of it and got a draw or maybe eeked out a decision, but he chose to try to fight Cotto until it became too much in the last couple of rounds. Even when Paulie did use his legs, he only took a step or two back, nothing like he has in the past. As for the weights, they had no unofficial weights that I know of, but you can look at them in the fight and see that Cotto easily outweighs Malignaggi by 10 or 15 lbs. I guess overall you could say that Cotto is the better fighter because he'll still have some power at 147 to rely on when he gets his bell rung, but not the better "boxer" per se.
                  So since Paulie comes usually comes into the fight at 148 or so, you are saying that Cotto came in at 163.....thats funny....

                  So according to you, Cotto which weighed in at 138, would have gained 25 pounds overnight. PFT! hahahahah
                  Last edited by machotime; 06-13-2006, 08:11 PM.

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                  • deliveryman
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                    #59
                    No it isn't...

                    Dehydrating your body completely over the course of 2 days, you can easily lose that much in water weight.

                    And then gain it back over the course of 35'ish hours.

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                    • machotime
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by deliveryman
                      No it isn't...

                      Dehydrating your body completely over the course of 2 days, you can easily lose that much in water weight.
                      Mark my words, gaining 25 pounds overnight is impossible for a 140 pounder to do.

                      Gaining 10-15 is possible, but 25 is impossible.

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