Steve collins?--Someone who was around tell me about him

[IronDanHamza]

It's common knowledge that Toney was on a drip in hospital to keep him alive the night before the Jones fight - He clearly looked odd.

In 1990 the kid was like 21 years old on a learning curve

Is it common knowledge or have you just made it up? Do you have a source for Toney being on a drip in hosptial "to keep him alive" before the Jones fight because this is literally the first time I have heard it.

Or maybe he needed to watch Ezzard Charles vs Rex Layne again, then he might have won!

[IronDanHamza]

Jones should've taken out a dead body if he was some kind of great fighter, but instead chose to bounce out of range like a rabbit all night

Toney beat the extremely good Johnson

Or maybe just making him look like he'd never been in a ring before shows he was "some kind of great fighter".

"Dead body" nice excuse, as always.

Toney got a gift against Johnson

[IronDanHamza]

I vividly recall Sat afternoon news showing the weigh-ins of the Eubank-Watson fights that day, hours before entering the ring

It was the injury to Watson that caused previous-day weigh-ins to occur for safety reasons

Ok pretty certain that was seldom and also in the UK.

Do you have a source for Toney Johnson and Toney Nunn being same day weigh ins?

[coghaugen]

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195626

[IronDanHamza]

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=195626

What is this garbage and why are you posting it?

[coghaugen]

Truth is definitely painful huh

[coghaugen]

The talk before the Prince Charles fight was James facing Michael Moorer.

[IronDanHamza]

Truth is definitely painful huh

You do realise that is just a poster on this forum posting his opinion?

Which logic has elluded, by the way.

[IronDanHamza]

The talk before the Prince Charles fight was James facing Michael Moorer.

Ok and he fought Prince Charles 4 months prior to Roy Jones at 168 yet apparently it's "common knowledge" that he was on his death bed the night before the fight

You can't even see how ridiculous that is.

James Toney cut massive amounts of weight his entire career. The Roy Jones fight was no different than any of his other fights. The excuse of that is only used when he lost, you literally did exactly that in this very thread. Blamed all his loss's and poor performances on something.

News flash, maybe James Toney just ain't that good.

[coghaugen]

It's very clear that Toney is a shadow of his usual self in the Jones fight. It's like night and day, not even up for debate, and Jones made hard work of it! If Jones was a great fighter he would've blown him out, simple as that - he was too scared to