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  • Butch.McRae
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    #51
    Originally posted by kafkod
    That's the difference between US and UK boxing. Eddie Hearn dresses and talks like a smart young business entrepeneur and gets himself out there talking to everybody from fans and YT boxing channels to TV execs and politicians.

    Frank Warren is old school, but a very smart guy, and as competitive as any fighter. When Warren saw what Hearn was doing he fired up and starting doing the same kinds of things himself.

    Is there anybody like that in the US?

    Don King was a promotional genius, but he's an old man now. Same thing with Bob Arum.

    Tom Loeffler is a businessman promoter, but he lacks the imagination and drive of Hearn, and the ruthless, cutthroat competitive streak of a Frank Warren.

    Oscar .. has everything a boxing promoter needs ... except a brain, lol.

    Dana white is talking about moving in on boxing. He would get nowhere in the UK with his foul mouthed blue-collar persona, lol, but it definitely works for him in the US.

    Floyd Mayweather? Mmmm .. maybe. Let's what happens now he's got that 50 - 0 record and can start focusing fully on promoting his fighters, instead of himself.
    You are absolutely correct. Boxing has a gentleman's heritage to it. The guys who push the game now need to be replaced with tech savvy modern professionals who understand digital marketing and advertising.

    I've heard what Sky is doing with Matchroom. It was smart of Eddie to pass the ad work over to professionals. Here the boxing divisions of these networks are terrible. HBO runs commercials on its channel only, Showtime does better digitally but it's imprint is low here, and ESPN ruined the credibility of its programming to casuals with Friday night fights.

    It's time to modernize the game. These kids like KO Twitter clips, and flamboyant characters. That stuff needs to be packaged and distributed effectively. PBC is trying to do that, but their videos are so obviously ads that I suspect the share potential is super low. They'd do better if they didn't put those tags on all their videos.

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    • New England
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      #52
      Originally posted by kafkod
      He knows its not ok .. that's why he said it.



      i mean in the context of being banned, not accepted by some.

      that should be the last thing you ever post on a forum. cat's out of the bag. you're racist enough and said something racist enough that you should never be allowed to post again.

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        #53
        Originally posted by chepboxingking
        Only a small fraction of those 324,272,037 people have Showtime, which is a paid subscription channel. in comparison, Joshua-Kitchko only pulled 670k Viewers on Showtime. 900k For a Showtime card is HUGE. They have a third of the subscribers HBO has.
        Yeah but joshua and klit arent "stars" either. I would be interested in seeing how many viewers watched mike tyson on showtime. But AJ, Klit, Wilder are barely household names in their own households lol. To steal a line from bertsugar

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        • chepboxingking
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          #54
          Originally posted by Steven Mccowan
          Yeah but joshua and klit arent "stars" either. I would be interested in seeing how many viewers watched mike tyson on showtime. But AJ, Klit, Wilder are barely household names in their own households lol. To steal a line from bertsugar
          Dude, they sold out 90,000 seat stadium!! if that's not a "star", I'm dying to know what your definition of a star is.

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            #55
            "using Anthony's name" - Hearn

            No Eddie, he's not using Anthony's name, he's just wanting Anthony's belts.

            .......and he's coming for them too.

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            • kafkod
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              #56
              Originally posted by New England
              i mean in the context of being banned, not accepted by some.

              that should be the last thing you ever post on a forum. cat's out of the bag. you're racist enough and said something racist enough that you should never be allowed to post again.
              That guy has had 5 or 6 accounts here, and his MO is always the same - ****** troll comments bordering on racism against blacks, Asians, and hispanics. Nasty hate comments about Britain and British boxers, especially UK gypsies. Calling East Euro boxers "commies" and ****** boxers "*********s" etc, then degenerating to outright overt racism against black Americans, as in this thread, to get himself banned.

              He'll be back with a different account soon, and the pattern will repeat itself.
              Last edited by kafkod; 11-09-2017, 12:50 PM.

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                #57
                He's never been tooken out. He keeps eddie Hearn lookin out. He drops fighters like girls be droppin babies, enough to make the UK go craaaazy.

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                • kafkod
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Steven Mccowan
                  Yeah but joshua and klit arent "stars" either. I would be interested in seeing how many viewers watched mike tyson on showtime. But AJ, Klit, Wilder are barely household names in their own households lol. To steal a line from bertsugar
                  Originally posted by chepboxingking
                  Dude, they sold out 90,000 seat stadium!! if that's not a "star", I'm dying to know what your definition of a star is.
                  In the UK and probably mainland Europe too, AJ and Wlad are household names, in the same way that Mike Tyson was.

                  In the UK, out of a population of 65 million, 1.53 million watched their fight on PPV.

                  In Germany, with a population of 82 million, 10.5 million watched the fight live.

                  That's prime Mike Tyson level stardom.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by RightJabLikeZab
                    He's never been tooken out. He keeps eddie Hearn lookin out. He drops fighters like girls be droppin babies, enough to make the UK go craaaazy.
                    Eddie Hearn in New York yesterday
                    asking guys "Who's Deontay?"
                    Them guys all shrugged, had no idea
                    "Ain't never heard of him round here"

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BigZ44
                      I'm starting to wonder if Hearn is trying to get Wilder over to his side. Could be the big headliner of Matchroom USA and then he could rake in all the money available at HW
                      Exactly what I was thinking. If he's thinking about that he will never make this fight because he would have a cash cow on either side of the Atlantic.

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