Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[travestyny]

See there is your problem, via WADA rules it's all relevant, problem is usada omitted big chunks of it for the PED cheat because he owns them and obviously your arse

Shut up, dummy. Go to the USADA protocol and read. Then cry over how ****** you are.

[travestyny]

In the above quote, the key word is "may be". So it's not mandatory







So before USADA was a LIAR and now you are calling them a moron!!!


Go read again what USADA said. They are NOT saying what you are saying!!!


USADA clearly uses the word "MAY BE". So that means that there are times where the DCO doesn't get any acceptable Specific Gravity readings from the samples and sends only those off to the LABs.

This one is going to be tough for you to DEFLECT. You are in far too deep!!!




and even WADA has a statement:





So I am right. There are circumstances where the DCO sends to the LAB only samples that do not even meet Suitable Specific Gravity.








What you said is that they need to include a urine sample that passes the SG test.

I stated that there are circumstances where the DCO determines otherwise.


Read it (see above quotes) and weep. WADA/USADA agree with what I said.



Who was right? ADP02
Who was wrong? travestyny






EDIT: I just read your post above..... You continue to DIG yourself in this hole..... DIG DEEPER, FASTER, WIDER .....

I just read your response above ... This requirement that exists is trumped by "exceptional circumstances" where the DCO determines otherwise and STOPs!!!!

In this case, it is CLEARLY stated that the DCO has no urine samples with an SG > limit yet the DCO will just send those samples to the LAB and is NOT REQUIRED to wait any longer!!!! LOL



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Poor Travestyny is trying to remove WADA and USADA statements!!!

While I read it quickly, I didn't read anything in that case contradicting my statements ... well actually WADA's and USADA's statements. Did you? LOL

I didn't even read those WADA and USADA statements in the case. In fact, where they bring up exceptional circumstances, they are stating that in the athlete's case, it wasn't considered exceptional circumstances.


Physically cannot urinate is a valid excuse? Well, wasn't that Floyd's problem?


Either way, the statements that I brought up trumps ....:
What you bring up is trumped by "exceptional circumstances" where the DCO determines otherwise and can STOP!!!!

Even in the case that you brought up, they mention that the DCO could have stopped it if he wanted to!
SO THANKs!!!!



So what you said here is WRONG!


It's that time again .... DIG DEEPER, WIDER .... FASTER!!! LOL



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First of all, go back to post 1023 dumb ass. That's when I said all of this shlt WAY before you did. It's unedited. Go check it out yourself. As you can see, I'm more knowledgeable about this than you, and 8 steps ahead of you. Have a look:

- If the DCO does do a specific gravity and it's too dilute, then there is also the possibility that for either that sample or the next, the DCO calls it a day and reports the situation of Floyd's condition as reasons for the delay. Yet, the sample may actually be too dilute!

What the actual...HOLY SPECULATION. That is NOT how it works.

The DCO may end the Sample Collection Session if:
a. None of the Samples collected from the Athlete meet the requirement for Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis; and
b. The DCO determines that for logistical reasons it is impossible to continue.

The DCO can end the collection if both of the above happen. And if they happened, then how the **** did USADA get a full sample, as was reported? On the contrary, they got a full sample, which means it was not diluted. There is no reason to believe otherwise, unless you subscribe in wild speculation.

- As stated in previous posts, its possible that there is no specific gravity taken since Floyd had trouble producing enough urine to begin with!!! That is, there is not enough urine to fill up the sample A and B but adequate (60-90ml) but with no residual urine. Then calls it a day.

YEP, THERE IT IS! THAT WILD SPECULATION...THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE DUMBEST THINGS EVER UTTERED ON THIS TOPIC!

WHAT THE ****. THIS ****ING GUY IS A MORON, I SWEAR.

You think they just end the sample collection because there is no residual urine???? LMAOOOOOOO. There is just no specific gravity? That's it? LMAOOOO.

WOW. You are far more dumb than I thought.

Um...here. Take a look at the specific gravity test, and tell me what you notice

YOU ARE A ****ING MORON!

Did you not see that? Sorry, buddy. You just don't know more about this than I do.



If you want to live the rest of your life being an idiot, hey...that’s fine with me.

1. I posted to you when the DCO can stop the session before you even read it, idiot. Trust me. You are far behind me in this. Go back, read my posts, and you will see it there. There is no reason to deflect anything because I’ve read this long before you, and if you would actually read what I post, you’d see it there moron.

2. Ask Shape Up about the lab being sent diluted samples. Months and months ago he said that diluted samples are thrown out, I told him and proved that they were not, and he admit (surprisingly) that he was wrong. Again, I’m well aware of these rules because I read and comprehend, unlike you that pulls shlt out of his ass. Don't believe me?

From July!

if it doesn't pass it's not tested, flushing more traces out before a testable sample, do I have to explain everything to you gimp, back in the box now, there's a good boy

LMAOOOOO. WRONG AGAIN F@g. Go do some research. They get a new sample but they definitely test the first sample and all samples given.

SHUT THE **** UP. IM TIRED OF KICKING THE SHlT OUT OF YOU.

The DCO sends all Samples collected to the Laboratory for analysis, irrespective of whether or not the Samples meet the requirement for Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis.
https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...14_v1.0_en.pdf

3. Once again, you are wrong. You are trying to say that in this instance they could have a sample from Floyd that is diluted. And you even go as far as saying they can end it because of "his condition." That’s simply not true.

He gave a full sample. What the **** would be the exceptional logistical reason that the session was ended.


Now, talking about burying yourself, answer that. When you can’t, just know that I’m sitting here laughing at you while you try to dig out of that grave...and especially your huge **** up about the SPG test which your dumbass won’t even acknowledge. Lmao.

By the way, work on your comprehension bro. What I mean by physically capable of peeing is he has a dlck and he is conscious. He is REQUIRED to give an undiluted sample.

There is nothing false about USADA’s statement. He may be asked to give another sample. Well by the rules, that is ALWAYS the case until it is IMPOSSIBLE.

SO unless you cut off his dlck to put down your throat, or all of the containers were contaminated, that sample is undiluted and no one was available to bring more (as was done in the case I sent you), this sample was undiluted.

By the way, if the containers were contaminated, the DCO must fill out forms revealing that to the lab (I think) and WADA. The process is set up very well. For you to try to say that the DCO can simply make up a lie to get a diluted sample in there is obviosly moronic. These people are clearly smarter than you. As by now I’m sure that I also am. Sorry to say that as I don’t like to say things that are pompous like that, but bro. What you’re saying is not only dishonest, but really ****ing dumb knowing that all of the DCO’s paperwork goes to WADA and the labs.

So you got anything. Tell me what exceptional logistical reason could have stopped this test. I’ll be waiting...to laugh at you.

Poor ADP02. Remember this?
You're heading for another collapse!!!

[Shape up]

Shut up, dummy. Go to the USADA protocol and read. Then cry over how ****** you are.

i cry with laughter at how ****** you are constantly knobjockey

[travestyny]

In the above quote, the key word is "may be". So it's not mandatory

You are really trying so hard to play up technicality, which is actually not even a technicality. Ok. Well, I didn't even want to do it this way since we both know that what you are saying is bullshlt, but eh...**** it. I'll show you how I beat you at your own game. You can't win son. Now pay attention.

We seem to have a bit of a dilemma, don't we? Check this out. From the Athlete Reference Guide to the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code:

The World Anti-Doping Code sets out rules that you, as an athlete, must follow. The point of this guide is to help you understand the rules.

9 The DCO is required to measure the sample’s specific gravity. If it does not meet certain requirements, you will be asked to provide another sample.
https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...-2015-code.pdf

Oh no....we have a dilemma. Your quotation says "may be asked." What athletes are told is "will be asked." So....how do we know what's what?

Here is a page with your quotation. Check out this part:

In the case of any discrepancy between this information and the World Anti-Doping Code, the Code prevails.
https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...ag_eng_web.pdf

Ok. Got that. If there is some kind of discrepancy, which there seems to be here, the Code prevails. Well, let's see what the code says:

5.4.2 Starting with that risk assessment, each anti-doping organization with testing authority shall develop and implement an effective, intelligent and proportionate test distribution plan that prioritizes appropriately between disciplines, categories of athletes, types of testing, types of Samples collected, and types of Sample analysis, all in compliance with the requirements of the international Standard for Testing and investigations.
https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...oping-code.pdf

Ok. We are on the road moving somewhere now. What does the ISTI say?

7.3.3 The DCO shall provide the Athlete with the opportunity to hydrate. The Athlete should avoid excessive rehydration, having in mind the requirement to provide a Sample with a Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis.

p) Required laboratory information on the Sample (i.e., for a urine
Sample, its volume and specific gravity measurement); (so much for your bullshlt that they can have NO SPG measurement. Remember that?)

F.4.10 The DCO shall check the residual urine in accordance with Article D.4.16 to ensure that it meets the requirement for Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis.

Annex G - Urine Samples that do not meet the requirement for Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis (yes, a whole section about the REQUIREMENT)

G.2 Scope
The procedure begins with the DCO informing the Athlete that a further Sample is required and ends with the collection of a Sample that meets the requirements for Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis, or appropriate follow- up action by the Testing Authority if required.


G.3 Responsibility
The Sample Collection Authority is responsible for establishing procedures to ensure that a suitable Sample is collected. If the original Sample collected does not meet the requirement for Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis, the DCO is responsible for collecting additional Samples until a suitable Sample is obtained.

G.4.6 The DCO should continue to collect additional Samples until the requirement for Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis is met, or until the DCO determines that there are exceptional circumstances which mean that for logistical reasons it is impossible to continue with the Sample Collection Session. Such exceptional circumstances shall be documented accordingly by the DCO. (Let me remind you, the Doping Control form and Sample Collection form are sent to WADA via ADAMS)

[Comment to G.4.6: It is the responsibility of the Athlete to provide a Sample with a Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis. Sample Collection Personnel shall advise the Athlete and Athlete Support Personnel as appropriate of this requirement at the time of Notification in order to discourage excessive hydration prior to the provision of the Athlete’s first sample. If his/her first Sample is too dilute, he/she shall be advised to not hydrate any further until a Sample with a Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis is provided. The DCO should wait as long as necessary to collect such a Sample. The Testing Authority may specify procedures to be followed by the DCO in determining whether exceptional circumstances exist that make it impossible to continue with the Sample Collection Session.]

G.4.10 The DCO shall send to the Laboratory for analysis all Samples which were collected, irrespective of whether or not they meet the requirement for Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis.

For the Steroidal Module, this additional information is required:
p) pH of the urine Sample.
q) Specific gravity of the urine Sample.

Well that said a whole lot. But as you can see, what is important is the word REQUIREMENT. So what is a requirement?

required |rəˈkwī(ə)rd|
adjective
officially compulsory, or otherwise considered essential; indispensable

requirement |rəˈkwī(ə)rmənt|
noun
a thing that is needed or wanted: choose the type of window that suits your requirements best.
• a thing that is compulsory; a necessary condition: applicants must satisfy the normal entry requirements.


For good measure, what does compulsory mean?

compulsory |kəmˈpəlsərē|
adjective
required by law or a rule; obligatory: compulsory military service | it was compulsory to attend Mass.


Ok, let's take the example above. It was Compulsory to attend Mass. You have to go. Right!

Now if someone breaks your ****ing legs and knocks you out, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for you to go, right dumb ass?

Do you understand the error of your ways now? Oh, and let's add in, you have to document and show proof that someone broke your legs and knocked you the **** out. You get it now?

Oh, and by the way. I know you want to say, "well, USADA isn't following the rules."

So let me end with this:

From USADA:

The Sample Collection Process

An important piece of any anti-doping program is sample collection or the process of securing an athlete’s blood and/or urine sample, completing paperwork, as well as preparing and shipping the sample to a WADA accredited laboratory. USADA is a signatory to the World Anti-Doping Code (Code), and USADA’s sample collection process is fully compliant with the Code and International Standard for Testing & Investigations.

You got that. Just another day....just owning you again. Now, tell us about that specific gravity and how the one drop of urine can break the system

By the way, your desperation is stinking up this thread, son. Do something about that.

[travestyny]

i cry with laughter at how ****** you are constantly knobjockey

Wasn't it you that said I was lying about the Code being in Annex A?


Now what, dumbass? Tell me what you see in Annex A of the USADA Protocol!

[travestyny]

i cry with laughter at how ****** you are constantly knobjockey

Come finish taking your lumps, bltch.

From the Contract:

Mayweather and Pacquiao agree that sections 5, 9-13, 16, 17(a), and 21 of the United States Anti-Doping Agency Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing shall constitute the procedural rules applicable to any Results Management Services provided hereunder.

From section 5 of the USADA Protocol:

5. Choice of Rules
In conducting Testing and results management under this Protocol, USADA will apply the following rules and principles:
a. Articles of the Code set forth in Annex A, which is incorporated by reference into the USADA Protocol, shall apply in all cases.

ANNEX A
WORLD ANTI-DOPING CODE ARTICLES
Articles from the World Anti-Doping Code that are referenced in the USOC Anti-Doping Policies and incorporated verbatim into the USADA Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing:

• Article 1 (Definition of Doping)
• Article 2 (Anti-Doping Rule Violations)
• Article 3 (Proof of Doping)
• Article 4.2.2 (Specified Substances)
• Article 4.3.3 (Wada’s Determination of the Prohibited list)
• Article 7.11 (Retirement from Sport)
• Article 9 (Automatic disqualification of individual Results)
• Article 10 (Sanctions on Individuals)
• Article 11 (Consequences to Teams)
• Article 13 (Appeals) with the exception of 13.2.2, 13.6, and 13.7
• Article 15.1 (Recognition of Decisions)
• Article 17 (Statute of Limitations)
• Article 24 (Interpretation of the Code)
• Appendix 1 - Definitions


CONTRACT -->
USADA PROTOCOL -->
ANNEX A (WADA CODES)

R.I.P.

[ADP02]

First of all, go back to post 1023 dumb ass. That's when I said all of this shlt WAY before you did. It's unedited. Go check it out yourself. As you can see, I'm more knowledgeable about this than you, and 8 steps ahead of you. Have a look:



Did you not see that? Sorry, buddy. You just don't know more about this than I do.



If you want to live the rest of your life being an idiot, hey...that’s fine with me.

1. I posted to you when the DCO can stop the session before you even read it, idiot. Trust me. You are far behind me in this. Go back, read my posts, and you will see it there. There is no reason to deflect anything because I’ve read this long before you, and if you would actually read what I post, you’d see it there moron.

2. Ask Shape Up about the lab being sent diluted samples. Months and months ago he said that diluted samples are thrown out, I told him and proved that they were not, and he admit (surprisingly) that he was wrong. Again, I’m well aware of these rules because I read and comprehend, unlike you that pulls shlt out of his ass. Don't believe me?

From July!

3. Once again, you are wrong. You are trying to say that in this instance they could have a sample from Floyd that is diluted. And you even go as far as saying they can end it because of "his condition." That’s simply not true.

He gave a full sample. What the **** would be the exceptional logistical reason that the session was ended.


Now, talking about burying yourself, answer that. When you can’t, just know that I’m sitting here laughing at you while you try to dig out of that grave...and especially your huge **** up about the SPG test which your dumbass won’t even acknowledge. Lmao.

By the way, work on your comprehension bro. What I mean by physically capable of peeing is he has a dlck and he is conscious. He is REQUIRED to give an undiluted sample.

There is nothing false about USADA’s statement. He may be asked to give another sample. Well by the rules, that is ALWAYS the case until it is IMPOSSIBLE.

SO unless you cut off his dlck to put down your throat, or all of the containers were contaminated, that sample is undiluted and no one was available to bring more (as was done in the case I sent you), this sample was undiluted.

By the way, if the containers were contaminated, the DCO must fill out forms revealing that to the lab (I think) and WADA. The process is set up very well. For you to try to say that the DCO can simply make up a lie to get a diluted sample in there is obviosly moronic. These people are clearly smarter than you. As by now I’m sure that I also am. Sorry to say that as I don’t like to say things that are pompous like that, but bro. What you’re saying is not only dishonest, but really ****ing dumb knowing that all of the DCO’s paperwork goes to WADA and the labs.

So you got anything. Tell me what exceptional logistical reason could have stopped this test. I’ll be waiting...to laugh at you.

Poor ADP02. Remember this?
You're heading for another collapse!!!

travestyny

The DCO can end the collection if both of the above happen. And if they happened, then how the **** did USADA get a full sample, as was reported? On the contrary, they got a full sample, which means it was not diluted. There is no reason to believe otherwise, unless you subscribe in wild speculation.

May I remind you that I was the one that gave you a list of about 15 points and told you that this is one of the possibilities. YOU said that the DCO is required to get a sample and cannot stop.

Well, the DCO can determine to STOP and then provides the samples that he does have even if all of the samples are diluted, as an example. As I stated and as stated by WADA and USADA!!!!


You are trying to get out of a hole by digging into it DEEPER ......


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[ADP02]

You are really trying so hard to play up technicality, which is actually not even a technicality. Ok. Well, I didn't even want to do it this way since we both know that what you are saying is bullshlt, but eh...**** it. I'll show you how I beat you at your own game. You can't win son. Now pay attention.

We seem to have a bit of a dilemma, don't we? Check this out. From the Athlete Reference Guide to the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code:




Oh no....we have a dilemma. Your quotation says "may be asked." What athletes are told is "will be asked." So....how do we know what's what?

Here is a page with your quotation. Check out this part:



Ok. Got that. If there is some kind of discrepancy, which there seems to be here, the Code prevails. Well, let's see what the code says:



Ok. We are on the road moving somewhere now. What does the ISTI say?




Well that said a whole lot. But as you can see, what is important is the word REQUIREMENT. So what is a requirement?

required |rəˈkwī(ə)rd|
adjective
officially compulsory, or otherwise considered essential; indispensable

requirement |rəˈkwī(ə)rmənt|
noun
a thing that is needed or wanted: choose the type of window that suits your requirements best.
• a thing that is compulsory; a necessary condition: applicants must satisfy the normal entry requirements.


For good measure, what does compulsory mean?

compulsory |kəmˈpəlsərē|
adjective
required by law or a rule; obligatory: compulsory military service | it was compulsory to attend Mass.


Ok, let's take the example above. It was Compulsory to attend Mass. You have to go. Right!

Now if someone breaks your ****ing legs and knocks you out, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for you to go, right dumb ass?

Do you understand the error of your ways now? Oh, and let's add in, you have to document and show proof that someone broke your legs and knocked you the **** out. You get it now?

Oh, and by the way. I know you want to say, "well, USADA isn't following the rules."

So let me end with this:

From USADA:




You got that. Just another day....just owning you again. Now, tell us about that specific gravity and how the one drop of urine can break the system

By the way, your desperation is stinking up this thread, son. Do something about that.

YAWN .....

WADA

G.4.6 The DCO should continue to collect additional Samples until the requirement for Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis is met, or until the DCO determines that there are exceptional circumstances which mean that for logistical reasons it is impossible to continue with the Sample Collection Session. Such exceptional circumstances shall be documented accordingly by the DCO. (Let me remind you, the Doping Control form and Sample Collection form are sent to WADA via ADAMS)

and

Even in the case that you brought up, they mention that the DCO could have stopped it if he wanted to!
SO THANKs!!!!

"The Panel notes Article D.4.4 in Annex D of the IST, which states as follows:
“…If the Athlete is not satisfied with any of the equipment available for selection, this shall be recorded by the DCO.
If the DCO does not agree with the Athlete that all of the equipment available for the selection is unsatisfactory, the DCO shall instruct the Athlete to proceed with the Sample Collection Session.
If the DCO agrees with the Athlete that all of the equipment available for the selection is unsatisfactory, the DCO shall terminate the collection of the Athlete’s urine Sample and this shall be recorded by the DCO”.

AND

WADA
"The DCO sends all Samples collected to the Laboratory for analysis, irrespective of whether or not the Samples meet the requirement for Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis."

AND this

USADA

"The DCO will check the specific gravity (concentration) of the sample. Additional samples may be requested if the sample is not within the required range."

In the above quote, the key word is "may be". So it's not mandatory



Man, how far have you DUG?

Continue!

DEEPER, WIDER, FASTER.............





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[Spoon23]

lol Nice work as usual ADP02!

Travestyny digging himself a new grave. She's about to bring out her go to alt soon hahaha!! Pls Do something Dosumpthin quick! Your main is in deep deep waters lololololololol

She's losing it again. It
is obvious her choices of words have caught him on the edge of another episode of dementia.

Biatch, ******, idiot, clown, dummy are words that correlates to her inner being and yet she brings it up to others as if to cover what is within him, a certified ******ed debater who has no idea how to make sense hahaha!! Pushing her agenda by putting those obscene and unnecessary shyitty words to win a debate. The greatest dimwit troll ever hahaha!!

She's really losing it now ADP02 keep on braking this tool. She has no composure left. This naive troll has been cracking more and more each day. You can feel his hate about you eating him up hahaha!!

Shut up, dummy. Go to the USADA protocol and read. Then cry over how ****** you are.

First of all, go back to post 1023 dumb ass. That's when I said all of this shlt WAY before you did. It's unedited. Go check it out yourself. As you can see, I'm more knowledgeable about this than you, and 8 steps ahead of you. Have a look:[/B]

If you want to live the rest of your life being an idiot, hey...that’s fine with me.

Now what, dumbass? Tell me what you see in Annex A of the USADA Protocol!

[b][size="5"]lmaooo. This clown is so ****** that he thinks there is only one annex for all documents.

Hey guys, I can make Travestyny duck a question like his life depended on it. Watch.

Yes, it is simple. I want to stay *****.

[ADP02]

lol Nice work as usual ADP02!

Travestyny digging himself a new grave. She's about to bring out her go to alt soon hahaha!! Pls Do something Dosumpthin quick! Your main is in deep deep waters lololololololol

She's losing it again. It
is obvious her choices of words have caught him on the edge of another episode of dementia.

Biatch, ******, idiot, clown, dummy are words that correlates to her inner being and yet she brings it up to others as if to cover what is within him a ******ed debater who has no idea how to make sense hahaha!! Pushing her agenda by putting those words to win a debate. The greatest dimwit troll ever hahaha!!

She's really losing it now ADP02 keep on braking this tool. She has no composure left. This naive troll has been cracking more and more each day. You can feel his hate about you eating him up hahaha!!

Thanks Spoon!

Yup, he just cannot stand nor admit that he was wrong!