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Man, all you do is make mistakes and I need to correct you on them.
All you did is flat out lie and that's why I largely ignore what you post, C-3PO
1) You said that it was the DCO's and USADA's call when it was time to decide whether to use the IV. I proved you wrong with a quote.
You still didn't come back with a link or quote on what you said. I'm still waiting!!!
Mr. Mayweather disclosed the infusion to USADA in advance of the IV being administered to him.
Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO, who was made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition...
Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to a USADA doping control officer who was at his home for collection of a sample. Mr. Mayweather provided partial urine samples to USADA both prior to and following the infusion. The urine provided by Mr. Mayweather on May 1, 2015, was subsequently tested and has been reported by the World Anti-Doping Agency accredited laboratory as negative.
https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...Tom-Hauser.pdf
What I said is that the paramedic made the ultimate decision to give the IV. Floyd then notified the DCO. The DCO conferred with higher-ups at USADA and it was determined the IV would be WADA compliant with a retroactive TUE which Floyd informed the DCO he would be submitting.
I am getting tired of you either not understanding what I wrote or purposely (and pathetically) trying to twist what I wrote to make your weak conspiracy theories look less weak.
2) Point #1 is not the first time that you said this. Man, I saw a post from September 2015 where you say similar!
After all this time, where is the link????
Unlike your posts, which vary from day to day to suit whatever fake point you are trying to make, the truth doesn't change. So of course I said the same thing back in Sept 2015. Why wouldn't I?
3) Pre IV vs post IV
- With BOTH there is a delay.
- Both are mixed then put into 2 vessels. Sample A and B!
So when this occurs, there is further dilution or complete dilution.
So when this occurs, there is also further loss or complete loss of the PEDs.
- If the DCO does do a specific gravity and it's too dilute, then Floyd has more time to delay and provides another sample.
- If the DCO does do a specific gravity and it's too dilute, then there is also the possibility that for either that sample or the next, the DCO calls it a day and reports the situation of Floyd's condition as reasons for the delay. Yet, the sample may actually be too dilute!
- As stated in previous posts, its possible that there is no specific gravity taken since Floyd had trouble producing enough urine to begin with!!! That is, there is not enough urine to fill up the sample A and B but adequate (60-90ml) but with no residual urine. Then calls it a day.
I stopped reading this part as soon as you told that bold-faced lie about a bonded DCO mixing two different samples. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CANNOT SOURCE SINCE IT IS A LIE YOU PULLED OUT YOUR ARSE.
You really need to brew a cup of tea, put a cold towel on your forehead and think about what motivates you to make up shyt about someone who doesn't even know you exist.
It's pathetic.
4) ABP and more:
- Floyd selects his START and END DATEs to test NOT USADA!!!
And? He is a professional athlete, not an Olympic figure skater. USADA is hired to ensue none of the athletes cheat in a professional contest. And they do random testing where the fighters don't know when they are going to be tested. It works. USADA remains the gold standard.
- ABP can be beat quite easily. An amateur who never used PEDs succeeded in beating the test against a WADA accredited LAB .... but of course, others have as well. All that Floyd needs to be sure is not to have spikes that exceed a threshold.
Microdosing can beat ABP
Of course you didn't source this because it's bullshyt. It even sounds like total bull****. I mean, if the amateur athlete never used PEDs, why would his ABP be "beat"? From what you wrote, I doubt you know what an APB is or how it is used.
I put in a link a week or so ago about microdosing which proved it doesn't enhance performance at all. But again, you need to make up your mind about when and how Floyd cheated.
If he microdosed, he would stop before camp because a random test given right after a microdose would come back dirty. But if he stopped before camp the effects would be gone by fight night, so why do it to begin with. But, even assuming he did microdose and stopped before camp, why then would he need an IV to mask anything.
Son, you are confused. Try some tea.
- USADA CEO travis Tygart said in an interview:
USADA was given just 7 weeks to test Floyd vs Manny for the May 2nd title. "That's far less than is optimal"
USADA and NSAC gave Floyd a clean bill of health. Next!
5) Hauser:
a) It takes time to investigate and put what he did altogether. There are facts, interviews, time waiting for interviews. Some refuse interviews.
b) Timing. Perhaps he felt that the best time was just before Floyd's next fight.
c) Others have also mentioned the above
d) If you were on these boards, some of us brought this up BEFORE Hauser. But people know who Hauser is ....
Hauser sat on the story because he wanted to smear Floyd. It's that simple. It doesn't take months to investigate when Kevin Iole basically put the entire story out in May. And the worse part is that after four months, Hauser's ******ed ass still got the story wrong. He had the USADA DCOs "surprising" Mayweather at his home where they discovered him red-handed in the middle of an IV. You are saying it took four month to write that? No, Hauser basically did the same thing you are doing. He pulled bullshyt from out of his arse.
5) Now it's your turn.
Go check up my post that you thought was too long.
There are some points that I want you to respond to.
a) Knowing all the facts, can you not see that Floyd was NOT even dehydrated by the time he received the IV?
Weight was relatively the same for 30 days, vitals ALL NORMAL, Floyd admits to making weight easily .... and so on.
Certainly not enough to say "IV IS THE WAY TO GO" when there are alternatives!
b) You saw the PLAN when someone is severely dehdyrated. In my post, it states to weigh the patient to accurately assess his fluid deficit.
Using their PLAN, they said one had to be > 10% dehydrated in weight deficit and the PLAN was to regain all of that lost fluid by IV ....
BUT using their rate of 100ml/kg for the IV
BUT here is the problem. Floyd weighed in like he usually does at 146lbs. Is this a 10% deficit? NO!!!
Certainly not enough to say "IV IS THE WAY TO GO" when there are alternatives!
146 lbs + fluids drank = 148???
Floyd weighed 148 the week before.
See, it makes NO SENSE and I like to hear your views on this NOT THIS CONSTANT DEFLECTIONs as you are starting to sound like Travestyny!!!.
For the last time, you fugging moron, we don't get to decide if Floyd was dehydrated or not. That call was made by the paramedic, who put his or her professional reputation and job on the line the minute it was decided to do it. You cannot do such a procedure just for the hell of it- it's the definition of medical malpractice.
All you did is flat out lie and that's why I largely ignore what you post, C-3PO
1) You said that it was the DCO's and USADA's call when it was time to decide whether to use the IV. I proved you wrong with a quote.
You still didn't come back with a link or quote on what you said. I'm still waiting!!!
Mr. Mayweather disclosed the infusion to USADA in advance of the IV being administered to him.
Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO, who was made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition...
Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to a USADA doping control officer who was at his home for collection of a sample. Mr. Mayweather provided partial urine samples to USADA both prior to and following the infusion. The urine provided by Mr. Mayweather on May 1, 2015, was subsequently tested and has been reported by the World Anti-Doping Agency accredited laboratory as negative.
https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...Tom-Hauser.pdf
What I said is that the paramedic made the ultimate decision to give the IV. Floyd then notified the DCO. The DCO conferred with higher-ups at USADA and it was determined the IV would be WADA compliant with a retroactive TUE which Floyd informed the DCO he would be submitting.
I am getting tired of you either not understanding what I wrote or purposely (and pathetically) trying to twist what I wrote to make your weak conspiracy theories look less weak.
2) Point #1 is not the first time that you said this. Man, I saw a post from September 2015 where you say similar!
After all this time, where is the link????Unlike your posts, which vary from day to day to suit whatever fake point you are trying to make, the truth doesn't change. So of course I said the same thing back in Sept 2015. Why wouldn't I?
3) Pre IV vs post IV
- With BOTH there is a delay.
- Both are mixed then put into 2 vessels. Sample A and B!
So when this occurs, there is further dilution or complete dilution.
So when this occurs, there is also further loss or complete loss of the PEDs.
- If the DCO does do a specific gravity and it's too dilute, then Floyd has more time to delay and provides another sample.
- If the DCO does do a specific gravity and it's too dilute, then there is also the possibility that for either that sample or the next, the DCO calls it a day and reports the situation of Floyd's condition as reasons for the delay. Yet, the sample may actually be too dilute!
- As stated in previous posts, its possible that there is no specific gravity taken since Floyd had trouble producing enough urine to begin with!!! That is, there is not enough urine to fill up the sample A and B but adequate (60-90ml) but with no residual urine. Then calls it a day.
I stopped reading this part as soon as you told that bold-faced lie about a bonded DCO mixing two different samples. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CANNOT SOURCE SINCE IT IS A LIE YOU PULLED OUT YOUR ARSE.
You really need to brew a cup of tea, put a cold towel on your forehead and think about what motivates you to make up shyt about someone who doesn't even know you exist.
It's pathetic.
4) ABP and more:
- Floyd selects his START and END DATEs to test NOT USADA!!!
And? He is a professional athlete, not an Olympic figure skater. USADA is hired to ensue none of the athletes cheat in a professional contest. And they do random testing where the fighters don't know when they are going to be tested. It works. USADA remains the gold standard.
- ABP can be beat quite easily. An amateur who never used PEDs succeeded in beating the test against a WADA accredited LAB .... but of course, others have as well. All that Floyd needs to be sure is not to have spikes that exceed a threshold.
Microdosing can beat ABP
Of course you didn't source this because it's bullshyt. It even sounds like total bull****. I mean, if the amateur athlete never used PEDs, why would his ABP be "beat"? From what you wrote, I doubt you know what an APB is or how it is used.
I put in a link a week or so ago about microdosing which proved it doesn't enhance performance at all. But again, you need to make up your mind about when and how Floyd cheated.
If he microdosed, he would stop before camp because a random test given right after a microdose would come back dirty. But if he stopped before camp the effects would be gone by fight night, so why do it to begin with. But, even assuming he did microdose and stopped before camp, why then would he need an IV to mask anything.
Son, you are confused. Try some tea.
- USADA CEO travis Tygart said in an interview:
USADA was given just 7 weeks to test Floyd vs Manny for the May 2nd title. "That's far less than is optimal"
USADA and NSAC gave Floyd a clean bill of health. Next!
5) Hauser:
a) It takes time to investigate and put what he did altogether. There are facts, interviews, time waiting for interviews. Some refuse interviews.
b) Timing. Perhaps he felt that the best time was just before Floyd's next fight.
c) Others have also mentioned the above
d) If you were on these boards, some of us brought this up BEFORE Hauser. But people know who Hauser is ....
Hauser sat on the story because he wanted to smear Floyd. It's that simple. It doesn't take months to investigate when Kevin Iole basically put the entire story out in May. And the worse part is that after four months, Hauser's ******ed ass still got the story wrong. He had the USADA DCOs "surprising" Mayweather at his home where they discovered him red-handed in the middle of an IV. You are saying it took four month to write that? No, Hauser basically did the same thing you are doing. He pulled bullshyt from out of his arse.
5) Now it's your turn.
Go check up my post that you thought was too long.
There are some points that I want you to respond to.
a) Knowing all the facts, can you not see that Floyd was NOT even dehydrated by the time he received the IV?
Weight was relatively the same for 30 days, vitals ALL NORMAL, Floyd admits to making weight easily .... and so on.
Certainly not enough to say "IV IS THE WAY TO GO" when there are alternatives!
b) You saw the PLAN when someone is severely dehdyrated. In my post, it states to weigh the patient to accurately assess his fluid deficit.
Using their PLAN, they said one had to be > 10% dehydrated in weight deficit and the PLAN was to regain all of that lost fluid by IV ....
BUT using their rate of 100ml/kg for the IV
BUT here is the problem. Floyd weighed in like he usually does at 146lbs. Is this a 10% deficit? NO!!!
Certainly not enough to say "IV IS THE WAY TO GO" when there are alternatives!
146 lbs + fluids drank = 148???
Floyd weighed 148 the week before.
See, it makes NO SENSE and I like to hear your views on this NOT THIS CONSTANT DEFLECTIONs as you are starting to sound like Travestyny!!!.
For the last time, you fugging moron, we don't get to decide if Floyd was dehydrated or not. That call was made by the paramedic, who put his or her professional reputation and job on the line the minute it was decided to do it. You cannot do such a procedure just for the hell of it- it's the definition of medical malpractice.
I know travestyny answers them anyway simply because he must relish kicking your azz every single time you try to spew that nonsense, but I prefer short, concise, AND SOURCED answers.
The next time you post one of these idiotic, lie filled, twisted rambles at me, I am simply going to tell you to source it and get back to me when everything has a reference.
And for God's sake, try the tea and cold towel on you forehead I suggested above.
You need it badly.
That or a *******...
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