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  • chrisJS
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    #191
    [QUOTE=Xi_;18115131]
    Originally posted by chrisJS
    Corrales, castillo, canelo, hatton were all better versions than that fat lw who fought Hagler.
    Hahahahaha none of these fighters are remotely close to great. Duran career from 1982-1990 >> all those guys and it ain't close. Any sane Boxing fan will say that. Since your a boxrec guy just look there to see since you haven't bothered watching the fights or acquainting yourself with the era.

    Also, Hearns. Give me the many you claim better than that.
    Last edited by chrisJS; 10-05-2017, 05:17 PM.

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      #192
      [QUOTE=chrisJS;18115145]
      Originally posted by Xi_
      So who are these all-time greats that beat all-time greats in their prime? If you admit Floyd has never beaten a prime ATG why is he the greatest fighter of the last 25 years? f@@g0t

      My point isn't Hagler beating a prime ATG at his optimum weight but that it's clear these two sucky victories that you have made incorrect statements on are way better than anyone Floyd ever fought.

      I'd also like to hear an explantion of how Hearns went to **** after the Leonard fight despite winning 4 more titles and scoring two wins over all-time greats? I'm curious and Leonard "breaking him" is not an acceptable answer because there's results to the contrary.
      floyd has the best resume of the last 25 years and has remained unbeaten thats why.....f@ggot! I wasnt arguing that point you're trying to make you ****ing idiot. The guy you were cheerleading ran his ****ing mouth about floyd not fighting a prime atg which agree...i found it hypocritical that his favorite fighter was Hagler....a guy who has not fought ANY prime atg's.

      Its of my opinion that leonard broke him, as soon as he found himself in that same situation he crumbled.

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        #193
        [QUOTE=Xi_;18115166]
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        floyd has the best resume of the last 25 years and has remained unbeaten thats why.....f@ggot! I wasnt arguing that point you're trying to make you ****ing idiot. The guy you were cheerleading ran his ****ing mouth about floyd not fighting a prime atg which agree...i found it hypocritical that his favorite fighter was Hagler....a guy who has not fought ANY prime atg's.

        Its of my opinion that leonard broke him, as soon as he found himself in that same situation he crumbled.
        Your opinion on Hearns is wrong because there's evidence to the contrary. You don't beat Benitez, Duran and win 4 more titles in THAT era if your broken. Hearns is special and there's a reason he was almost a 2-1 favorite in the Hagler fight.

        Anyway, the response regarding Hatton being better than Duran got me curious. No disrespect intended but how old are you and how long have you been a fan? I mean no disrespect there I ask because years back around 2001 when I was around 15 and had been a Boxing fan 6-7 years I thought Trinidad deserved to be ranked with some of these guys but obviously I realize that the younger me was way off base there.

        Also, I am still waiting on the multiple wars Hearns had engaged pre-Hagler.

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          #194
          [QUOTE=chrisJS;18115173]
          Originally posted by Xi_
          Your opinion on Hearns is wrong because there's evidence to the contrary. You don't beat Benitez, Duran and win 4 more titles in THAT era if your broken. Hearns is special and there's a reason he was almost a 2-1 favorite in the Hagler fight.

          Anyway, the response regarding Hatton being better than Duran got me curious. No disrespect intended but how old are you and how long have you been a fan? I mean no disrespect there I ask because years back around 2001 when I was around 15 and had been a Boxing fan 6-7 years I thought Trinidad deserved to be ranked with some of these guys but obviously I realize that the younger me was way off base there.

          Also, I am still waiting on the multiple wars Hearns had engaged pre-Hagler.
          Hearns beat those guys and he dominated them......hearns was alway a guy who couldnt take the heat when it got hot. He was the smaller man vs hagler. Hagler had the advantage cause of weight.

          Hatton was more close to his prime than shopworn fat duran was for Hagler. You can't deny that. That hatton win was better than that fat duran win.....imo. Im using the same criteria that y'all love to use for floyd.....deal with it.
          Last edited by Xi_; 10-05-2017, 05:38 PM.

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            #195
            [QUOTE=Xi_;18115188]
            Originally posted by chrisJS
            Hearns beat those guys and his dominated them......hearns was alway a guy who couldnt take the heat when it got hot. He was the smaller man vs hagler. Hagler had the advantage cause of weight.

            Hatton was more close to his prime than shopworn fat duran was for Hagler. You can't deny that. That hatton win was better than that fat duran win.....imo. Im using the same criteria that y'all love to use for floyd.....deal with it.
            Not being able to take the heat vs. Leonard isn't not being able to take the heat. He almost got KO'd in like the 6th round and came out next round and dominated the next few rounds.

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              #196
              [QUOTE=chrisJS;18115197]
              Originally posted by Xi_

              Not being able to take the heat vs. Leonard isn't not being able to take the heat. He almost got KO'd in like the 6th round and came out next round and dominated the next few rounds.
              and he lost via ko......almost doesn't count.

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                #197
                [QUOTE=Xi_;18115188]
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                Hearns beat those guys and he dominated them......hearns was alway a guy who couldnt take the heat when it got hot. He was the smaller man vs hagler. Hagler had the advantage cause of weight.

                Hatton was more close to his prime than shopworn fat duran was for Hagler. You can't deny that. That hatton win was better than that fat duran win.....imo. Im using the same criteria that y'all love to use for floyd.....deal with it.
                Hatton's prime is nothing. He was a solid fighter that's it and he came up in weight he had ****** against Collazo. Near Hatton's prime means nothing against Duran.

                That's like saying Danny Garcia is nearer his prime than the Sugar Ray Robinson that Carmen Basilio beat. Does that make Thurman's win over Garcia better? See how ridiculous that sounds. We are talking levels of fighters.

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                  #198
                  [QUOTE=Xi_;18115200]
                  Originally posted by chrisJS
                  and he lost via ko......almost doesn't count.
                  But him rallying is proof he wasn't "broken" or that he "couldn't take the heat". As are his vast accomplishments after.

                  In 1985 Hearns was rated the #2 in most pound for pound lists in arguably the best era post-Sugar Ray Robinson era. There's a reason.

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                    #199
                    [QUOTE=chrisJS;18115203]
                    Originally posted by Xi_

                    Hatton's prime is nothing. He was a solid fighter that's it and he came up in weight he had ****** against Collazo. Near Hatton's prime means nothing against Duran.

                    That's like saying Danny Garcia is nearer his prime than the Sugar Ray Robinson that Carmen Basilio beat. Does that make Thurman's win over Garcia better? See how ridiculous that sounds. We are talking levels of fighters.
                    Duran wasn't on that level when he fought Hagler.....he was shopworn and fat! Hatton was the better win.....im done arguing because you're trying to argue a point i don't even give **** about. I just have one question for you.....Do you agree that Hagler never fought atg in their prime?

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                      #200
                      [QUOTE=chrisJS;18115208]
                      Originally posted by Xi_
                      But him rallying is proof he wasn't "broken" or that he "couldn't take the heat". As are his vast accomplishments after.

                      In 1985 Hearns was rated the #2 in most pound for pound lists in arguably the best era post-Sugar Ray Robinson era. There's a reason.
                      here we go with the ring rating lmao.....the ring is only credible when we talk about the old fighters huh?

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