GGG's Legacy

[djtmal]

I just have fun with it. I mean they criticize a fighter for moving into a division which wasn't even invented and say the fighters ducked other fights who's names they don't know and speak on fights they haven't seen. They even pretend 1984 happened before 1983 for example to suit their agendas. It's a fanboy thing I guess.

you know what is too...these newfangled floyd boys really don't have a lot of respect for the old guard, but what they don't realize is the old guard had to beat a ton of not just good but great guys just to be called the champ in a division...

[chrisJS]

you know what is too...these newfangled floyd boys really don't have a lot of respect for the old guard, but what they don't realize is the old guard had to beat a ton of not just good but great guys just to be called the champ in a division...

They just know Floyd and don't really know the sport and any critique on their idol they feel fit to go on the defensive and then start tearing apart fighters that they don't know about from era's they don't know about and spew mad hypocrisy and lies like homeboy claiming 1984 was earlier than 1983. Massive lack of knowledge right there. Larry hates Hagler now because it fits his Floyd's the best ever GGG is the worst ever narrative despite seeing maybe 1-2 of his fights and not knowing his era or opponents. He claimed Hagler ducked 168 years before the division was even invented and that Hatton is better than Duran and Hearns LOL.

[Xi_]

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All past prime, duran was ktfo by hearns worst than pacquiao

lmao...duran was ko'd by hearns, AFTER he lost to hagler....duran, even the slightly past prime one hagler fought, is arguably top 10 all-time, is miles above anybody floyd beat...and as we all know, floyd got the balls to even see a pac fight thru only after he was put to sleep by marquez

and hearns had been in wars prior to fighhting hagler....

you must be sh**ting me...
don't try to put extras on it...hearns was still quite prime, had only been tko'd by the sugar man, and obliterated, let me say that again, obliterated top 10 all time duran going into the hagler fight, was part of one of the greatest wars in boxing history...broke his hand on marvin's head....lol....

all of his biggest wins are from small past prime fighters coming up in weight. Nobody with any boxing knowledge ranks him above floyd.

floyd's biggest wins are ricky hatton, canelo alvarez, and corrales...some of the greatest fighters of all-time right there

Date mix up.....sue me. Fact remains that Duran was small and way past prime. Hearns was not ****ing prime when he fought hagler....get that bs outta here. Hagler has ZERO prime ATG's on his resume and it dont matter how much you hate on or downgrade Floyd's resume he is still considered greater than hagler on almost every respectable list.

[Xi_]

They just know Floyd and don't really know the sport and any critique on their idol they feel fit to go on the defensive and then start tearing apart fighters that they don't know about from era's they don't know about and spew mad hypocrisy and lies like homeboy claiming 1984 was earlier than 1983. Massive lack of knowledge right there. Larry hates Hagler now because it fits his Floyd's the best ever GGG is the worst ever narrative despite seeing maybe 1-2 of his fights and not knowing his era or opponents. He claimed Hagler ducked 168 years before the division was even invented and that Hatton is better than Duran and Hearns LOL.

Date mix up.....sue me. Fact remains.....he doesnt have a prime atg on his resume....period!

[chrisJS]

Date mix up.....sue me. Fact remains.....he doesnt have a prime atg on his resume....period!

Who does?

Is Hearns and Duran still not better than anything on Mayweather's resume?

[chrisJS]

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Date mix up.....sue me. Fact remains that Duran was small and way past prime. Hearns was not ****ing prime when he fought hagler....get that bs outta here. Hagler has ZERO prime ATG's on his resume and it dont matter how much you hate on or downgrade Floyd's resume he is still considered greater than hagler on almost every respectable list.

Hearns was actually favored in the odds and very much considered prime. Remember your not that good at working times and that out but he had beaten Benitez (a great fighter) and Duran coming in. He was "prime" just not at his greatest weight but that's still a great fighter at a time when the match was perfectly matched.

Duran small and past his prime still better than anything Floyd has tackled. He had great victories AFTER he fought Hagler.

You talk about these "respectable" lists but I don't see them. As an example Ring magazine (which you lot hold gospel when it suits) rated the best fighters alive and Hagler rated I believe 4 or 5 and Mayweather 7 or 8. That's polling around 30 historians. People whom off the top of their heads already know that Duran dropped down to fight Hearns after challenging Hagler.

[Xi_]

Who does?

Is Hearns and Duran still not better than anything on Mayweather's resume?

they are better names but they were prime and they'd already been in multiple wars prior. Hagler isnt ranked higher than floyd on any respectable list.

[chrisJS]

they are better names but they were prime and they'd already been in multiple wars prior. Hagler isnt ranked higher than floyd on any respectable list.

10. Larry Holmes
9. Manny Pacquiao
8. Jake Lamotta
7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
6. Julio Caesar Chavez Sr.
5. Marvin Hagler
4. Evander Holyfield
3. Pernell Whitaker
2. Roberto Duran
1. Sugar Ray Leonard

As polled by around 30 Boxing historians and journalists. That's at least one list so that's certainly more than "ANY".

What "Wars" had Hearns and Duran been in that constitutes multiple? Explain that.

FYI Duran-Barkley, Hearns-Leonard II were AFTER.

[Xi_]

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Hearns was actually favored in the odds and very much considered prime. Remember your not that good at working times and that out but he had beaten Benitez (a great fighter) and Duran coming in. He was "prime" just not at his greatest weight but that's still a great fighter at a time when the match was perfectly matched.

Duran small and past his prime still better than anything Floyd has tackled. He had great victories AFTER he fought Hagler.

You talk about these "respectable" lists but I don't see them. As an example Ring magazine (which you lot hold gospel when it suits) rated the best fighters alive and Hagler rated I believe 4 or 5 and Mayweather 7 or 8. That's polling around 30 historians. People whom off the top of their heads already know that Duran dropped down to fight Hearns after challenging Hagler.

Link.....make sure its an updated post 2016 link too.

[chrisJS]

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Link.....make sure its an updated post 2016 link too.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=719318

August 8th, 2016. Do you really believe McGregor lifted Floyd that many places and your out here saying the Hearns win meant nothing. GTFOH.