Would you consider Pacquiao one of the best offensive fighters of all time?

[djtmal]

Why did floyd walk over testing if he was gonna beat manny anyways? And you said one guy wanted to fight and one wanted to posture? Lol

i think he dodged this question altogether...

[The Big Dunn]

He was earning more than Manny at the time because he was his own promoter but he was considered equal with Manny at the time. This was supposed to be a 50/50 ppv split at the time. That's well known. (not saying that it was just Floyds fault that the fight didn't happen, but it mostly was)

Yes, agreed. This is lost on djtmal. He is acting like Floyd and Manny were closer than they were. Floyd had more revenue streams from fights given his promotional arrangement.

[The Big Dunn]

i think he dodged this question altogether...

Uhh, the article you referenced, which I posted, indicates Bob called the fight off. It also indicates Floyd negotiated after Manny said he didn't sign the no testing deal in December.

Frankly, I haven't seen anything anywhere that suggested Floyd "walked".

Where is he getting that from? what exactly does he mean by "walked"?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Roy is one of the greatest offensive fighter of all time.

His power and speed were off the charts.

Go watch the Brian Brannon, Montell Griffin 2 and Pazienza fights if you want to see super aggressive Roy.

I'm not dis*****g that. But for the most part Roy would counter or potshot from the outside.

Hopkins and Toney are 2 of the greatest counterpunchers ever but couldn't find Roy because he was never aggressively coming in. He potshoted and counter


Roy wasn't the offensive tornado nonstop like manny

[djtmal]

of course you did, because you love Manny. If you run the numbers, its clear.

Agreed, they both represented each others biggest payday to date. That doesn't make them equal. Biil Gates and warren Buffet are both billionaires but they aint equal.

Whether you feel 24 days was fair or not, Floyd moved off from 0 days to 14, Manny refused that.

In the end, manny took the exact same tests, made the exact same 3rd of what Floyd made (although it was substantially more than what he would've in 09) and lost, just as he would've in 09.

Is what it is.

Lol. He knew he had to move off of 0 days because if he didn't, the whole world would know he was 100% scared.

I love fair fights, and your boy was trying to implement some bush league jankyness that you will defend because, well, thats your man. I respect Pac for holding his ground regarding a 24-day cutoff in '09 and not allowing the Mayweathers to buttf**k him, but you wouldn't know nothing about that.

You also honestly don't know who would have won in '09, because on the real, your boy was too scared to find out.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I know what you said but my first response was about Jones being an offensive force, which he was in spades. And he's not a counter puncher. And you apparently don't know prime Roy Jones. Go do some homework and come back here and apologize.

Yeah cuz prime Roy didn't counter hills jab and destroy his body.


Roy countered and fought on the outside with movement way more than he came forward looking to brawl

[The Big Dunn]

Lol. He knew he had to move off of 0 days because if he didn't, the whole world would know he was 100% scared.

I love fair fights, and your boy was trying to implement some bush league jankyness that you will defend because, well, thats your man. I respect Pac for holding his ground regarding a 24-day cutoff in '09 and not allowing the Mayweathers to buttf**k him, but you wouldn't know nothing about that.

You also honestly don't know who would have won in '09, because on the real, your boy was too scared to find out.

Got it. He negotiated and made a compromise offer of 14 days not because he wanted to fight Manny but because if he didn't, the world would say he is scared. This after he signed to fight in December. Doesn't make much sense but ok.

Uhh PED testing for both fighters is IYO "bush league jankyness". Interesting.

You respect Manny for not negotiating, but if Floyd had not, you'd see that as him being scared. Yet in manny's case its a sign of strength. Don't know if I've ever seen a more hypocritical thought on NSB.

Well, yeah I do. Dibella does. Bob does. The matchmakers did. Manny did. You however are not sure. OK, I can understand that.

I know this-if he had taken the $40 mil, no PPV offer he wouldn't have gotten KTFO by JMM. You agree?

Karma!!!

[Boxing Goat]

Man I love Manny Pacquaio. But you're so right. Manny bought in to the hype. People made him believe an undefeated fighter, who had never been beaten, never been on his rear, never been dominated was afraid of him.

I will never forget what Pac said to Tim Bradley in their faceoff.

"For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted." It was chilling.

Pac lost his way and was humbled. He was watching basketball before one of his fights. He was really intoxicated with his celebrity.

I feel bad for him because he truly is one of the best we have ever seen. He can't be happen on ESPN.

Floyd was afraid of prime Manny otherwise he wouldn't have insisted on ped testing. There is video of him actually admitting to this. To that there really is no way to dispute it.

[Boxing Goat]

Roy is one of the greatest offensive fighter of all time.

His power and speed were off the charts.

Go watch the Brian Brannon, Montell Griffin 2 and Pazienza fights if you want to see super aggressive Roy.

Thank you. As I said, maybe he's new to the sport and just isn't aware of how prime Roy was an absolute freak. The fight vs. Hall was disgusting. It was like playing a video game on cheat mode. Ridiculous how Roy manhandled him....OFFENSIVELY.

[djtmal]

Got it. He negotiated and made a compromise offer of 14 days not because he wanted to fight Manny but because if he didn't, the world would say he is scared. This after he signed to fight in December. Doesn't make much sense but ok.

Uhh PED testing for both fighters is IYO "bush league jankyness". Interesting.

You respect Manny for not negotiating, but if Floyd had not, you'd see that as him being scared. Yet in manny's case its a sign of strength. Don't know if I've ever seen a more hypocritical thought on NSB.

Well, yeah I do. Dibella does. Bob does. The matchmakers did. Manny did. You however are not sure. OK, I can understand that.

I know this-if he had taken the $40 mil, no PPV offer he wouldn't have gotten KTFO by JMM. You agree?

Karma!!!

My man you are truly blinded on the Mayweather Kool-Aid.

Going from 0 day cutoff to 14 days was not a compromise. That was saving face from every scribe saying he was just going thru the motions acting like he wanted a fight but not committed making a fight happen.

The Pac's did the exact same thing as the Floyds the way you talking: they sat down, they offered and counteroffered, and neither side could come to an agreement. I respect the Pac's for not budging on the 24 days cutoff. If Floyd was too scared to get the ring with the little guy with a 24 days cutoff, which I thought was cool, thats his problem and I know none of you Floyd boys would check him on that.