Would you consider Pacquiao one of the best offensive fighters of all time?

[Boxing Goat]

Yeah cuz prime Roy didn't counter hills jab and destroy his body.


Roy countered and fought on the outside with movement way more than he came forward looking to brawl

My point is that Roy was still an OFFENSIVE JUGGERNAUT, nobody could avoid his punches in his prime. And him being head first brawler, instead of a thinking fighter really is irrelevant.

[The Big Dunn]

My man you are truly blinded on the Mayweather Kool-Aid.

Going from 0 day cutoff to 14 days was not a compromise. That was saving face from every scribe saying he was just going thru the motions acting like he wanted a fight but not committed making a fight happen.

The Pac's did the exact same thing as the Floyds the way you talking: they sat down, they offered and counteroffered, and neither side could come to an agreement. I respect the Pac's for not budging on the 24 days cutoff. If Floyd was too scared to get the ring with the little guy with a 24 days cutoff, which I thought was cool, thats his problem and I know none of you Floyd boys would check him on that.

what you posted is ridiculous. the scribes knew he signed the deal in December, which makes any thought that he was scared ******ed. Had Manny signed that, no need for all this.

At least Roach admitted it. Too bad you wont. I'm glad you respect Manny for refusing to fight.

In the end, karma! An ESPN fight, from Australia, against a school teacher, with no PED testing either.

[djtmal]

what you posted is ridiculous. the scribes knew he signed the deal in December, which makes any thought that he was scared ******ed. Had Manny signed that, no need for all this.

At least Roach admitted it. Too bad you wont. I'm glad you respect Manny for refusing to fight.

In the end, karma! An ESPN fight, from Australia, against a school teacher, with no PED testing either.

what i posted is not just my opinion, but a lot of old school cats opinion...its too bad you won't admit that like my man said, after the cotto fight, floyd and his pops saw this offensive juggernaut, stop a prime world class guy that floyd took a vacation to avoid, and would only fight him at his peak if only they could run his rep in the mud for ped usage, and suck blood from him with a 0 day cut-off...

floyd is low to no-risk, high reward reward man admit it...the pattern has been established a long time ago...

fought pac when the risk was at its absolute lowest, same with cotto, shane, and no way you can sidestep conor mcgregor for a sanctioned 50th fight, a guy with a record of 0-0.

[djtmal]

what you posted is ridiculous. the scribes knew he signed the deal in December, which makes any thought that he was scared ******ed. Had Manny signed that, no need for all this.

At least Roach admitted it. Too bad you wont. I'm glad you respect Manny for refusing to fight.

In the end, karma! An ESPN fight, from Australia, against a school teacher, with no PED testing either.

floyd beat conor mcgregor, he must be the greatest....

[BoxingTrav]

[QUOTE=Boxing Goat;18045887]Floyd was afraid of prime Manny otherwise he wouldn't have insisted on ped testing. There is video of him actually admitting to this. To that there really is no way to dispute it.[/QUOTE

Floyd was never afraid of Pacman. This is something that folks who were not fan of his never figured out. There was no reason for Floyd to be afraid. What he was was very aware. Most fighters lost a little something as they moved up in weight. Manny looked like he was stronger and more dangerous. I mean the guy that got dropped by Nedal Hussein and was being manhandled by Agapito Sanchez was now running through Hatton, DelaHoya and Cotto. Three guys that Floyd respected. He thought something was up. A clean guy calls his bluff takes the test and runs through him too. But instead we heard some many excuses. It was just bizarre. Floyd signed for the fight in December, why would he ever think Manny would refuse to take the test?

But that's all history. This scared narrative made Mayweather the richest fighter ever. It helped him and hurt Manny.

Most people say that Floyd waited for Manny to get knocked out for the fight to be made. They completely ignore that it took Floyd to look vulnerable against Maidana for the fight to be made.

[djtmal]

[QUOTE=BoxingTrav;18046049]

Floyd was afraid of prime Manny otherwise he wouldn't have insisted on ped testing. There is video of him actually admitting to this. To that there really is no way to dispute it.[/QUOTE

Floyd was never afraid of Pacman. This is something that folks who were not fan of his never figured out. There was no reason for Floyd to be afraid. What he was was very aware. Most fighters lost a little something as they moved up in weight. Manny looked like he was stronger and more dangerous. I mean the guy that got dropped by Nedal Hussein and was being manhandled by Agapito Sanchez was now running through Hatton, DelaHoya and Cotto. Three guys that Floyd respected. He thought something was up. A clean guy calls his bluff takes the test and runs through him too. But instead we heard some many excuses. It was just bizarre. Floyd signed for the fight in December, why would he ever think Manny would refuse to take the test?

But that's all history. This scared narrative made Mayweather the richest fighter ever. It helped him and hurt Manny.

Most people say that Floyd waited for Manny to get knocked out for the fight to be made. They completely ignore that it took Floyd to look vulnerable against Maidana for the fight to be made.

ha...if there was a killer on the loose, that's who ali wanted to fight...THAT is the difference between he and Floyd that these newbies will never get...

floyd's track record of low-risk, high reward fights makes it hard for me to co-sign to any of that..quite simply, he just waited guys out...the vacation after hatton and the cautious matchmaking after that should be proof enough...

[Zaroku]

what you posted is ridiculous. the scribes knew he signed the deal in December, which makes any thought that he was scared ******ed. Had Manny signed that, no need for all this.

At least Roach admitted it. Too bad you wont. I'm glad you respect Manny for refusing to fight.

In the end, karma! An ESPN fight, from Australia, against a school teacher, with no PED testing either.

Ployd as much as I've wanted to see him dropped & stopped fights good... Slick.. I got 8 years slinging in my youth...
Nobody taught me slickness..

Floyd love the money... Slick and smart I stopped betting against him after the Castillo rematch... The is the fool I love to hate... But objectively can sling and avoid em.

[Xi_]

Pacquiao wasnt confident without his juice which is why he ducked floyd all these years...he is a ****ing coward.

[djtmal]

Pacquiao wasnt confident without his juice which is why he ducked floyd all these years...he is a ****ing coward.

the hate flows strong with this padawan

[Boxing Goat]

[QUOTE=BoxingTrav;18046049]

Floyd was afraid of prime Manny otherwise he wouldn't have insisted on ped testing. There is video of him actually admitting to this. To that there really is no way to dispute it.[/QUOTE

Floyd was never afraid of Pacman. This is something that folks who were not fan of his never figured out. There was no reason for Floyd to be afraid. What he was was very aware. Most fighters lost a little something as they moved up in weight. Manny looked like he was stronger and more dangerous. I mean the guy that got dropped by Nedal Hussein and was being manhandled by Agapito Sanchez was now running through Hatton, DelaHoya and Cotto. Three guys that Floyd respected. He thought something was up. A clean guy calls his bluff takes the test and runs through him too. But instead we heard some many excuses. It was just bizarre. Floyd signed for the fight in December, why would he ever think Manny would refuse to take the test?

But that's all history. This scared narrative made Mayweather the richest fighter ever. It helped him and hurt Manny.

Most people say that Floyd waited for Manny to get knocked out for the fight to be made. They completely ignore that it took Floyd to look vulnerable against Maidana for the fight to be made.

I don't think Floyd was afraid to be hurt, but yea he was afraid to fight prime Manny. Otherwise, he wouldn't have dodged the fight if Manny wouldn't do ped testing when he didn't have the same reservations for other fighters.