How good is Andre Ward in an all time sense?

[Kigali]

Not even top 500 in reality. He can't do much beyond holding, elbowing and throwing two punches.

...but he whipped the lice off a Russian rabbit-puncher.

[joseph5620]

Not even top 500 in reality. He can't do much beyond holding, elbowing and throwing two punches.

Name 500 better fighters. Is Khan better than Ward?

[soul_survivor]

Name 500 better fighters. Is Khan better than Ward?

your mothers rotten breaths has more KOs than ward

[Madison Boxing]

not very high at all and im not saying that as a 'hater'. lets look at his major wins: kessler- he clinched him 88 times and 5 headbutts. froch- won by 1 round, very close fight but it was a legitimate win. kovalev 1- vast majority thought he lost. kovalev 2- ended by repeated low blows, fight was up for grabs at that point. When you line the names up on his CV it sounds good but when you dissect the circumstances of these wins then its not so good. Hes a p4p level fighter, but all time great, hell no. Not remotely close, absolutely light years behind someone like mayweather.

[Mr.Fantastic]

He's up there whether people like it or not. I think when he retires more people will see him as an all time great.

Like Oscar.

[Kigali]

your mothers rotten breaths has more KOs than ward

Kovalev is one of Ward's KO's

[joseph5620]

Like Oscar.

You can't compare Oscar to Ward unless you're delusional.

[BillyBoxing]

How good is Andre Ward in an all time sense?

He's on an ATG level since he's a complete fighter with both amateur and pro pedigree.

He has intangibles, physical and boxing abilities.


The main thing is he hasn't proved enough to be an ATG.

He has beaten the same kind of fighter, european long range style.
I mean on a decent level (world champion).

[joseph5620]

your mothers rotten breaths has more KOs than ward

I have more KO's over you and your pea brain than Ward does.

[uppercut510]

Hes up there, weather or not people like the way he gets the job done isnt his fault