How good is Andre Ward in an all time sense?

[BillyBoxing]

No counterpoint.

You're still hurting from that ass kicking I gave you yesterday lol. Now you're following me around a day after you said you would put me on ignore

Ass kicking, lol here come the internet warrior geek btchass, nah you were just annoying, and wrong as usual.

Just stop thinking that you are a good, unbiased, fair, smart poster.

You're a fan boy, never talk about boxing but just fighters.

I'm just sick to read your sht post all over again.

Pretending Ward and his sorry ass record is as great as an ATG like Oscar who fought in 6 divisions.

When Ward fought just one guy outside of his tiny 168 division.

Then accusing others of bias.

What next time, GGG is better than Oscar?

Ho I know triple doesn't feet your agenda

[joseph5620]

A better win than a past prime Kessler for sure.

Andre Ward the euro bum beater lol

How can you dare compare his record to a PPV fighter like DLH who fought a ton of greats.

A past prime DLH could be competitive with Floyd.

In reality, Ocar beat Trinidad, that's how good Oscar was.

Did Ward ever fought a great fighter in his life.

Yeah, Froch is great, that's how much went low boxing I guess...

You're one of the idiots that said Ward would avoid Kovalev Then you said Kovalev would knock Ward out. Now Kovalev is a bum to you. I love to expose idiots like you who routinely do this.

Kessler was so past prime that he was favored to beat Ward and win the super 6. Again you're exposing your idiocy, lack of boxing knowledge lies, and your contradictions.


Camacho better win for Delahoya than Kessler Froch, and Kovalev?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

The kovolev fights cemented wards ascension to ATG status.

Ward's resume is outstanding and he has pretty much dominated every opponent..


Throw in his Olympic success and the fact that he hasn't lost since he was like 12, Ward is a legit ATG

[KingHippo]

LMFAO that ******ed ass scratcher actually said ODLHYA was more skilled than Andre Ward?

People just don't know what they're seeing.

[KingHippo]

Older Oscar is more stiff for sure, prime hmmmm I can see it both ways.

You still haven't told me much Mr. Grand IQ Boxing Genius.

Tell me what Ward does that is so great and against who it was. Please, enlighten me.

I don't have time to elaborate Andre Ward's skill set for you. It is just too extensive. The counter punching, footwork, his ability to open and close distance at will, the in and out movement, he's just just head and shoulders above Oscar skill wise in my opinion.

And his ability to force and fight in and out the clinch is a skill believe it or not. I've seen clinching ever since I watched boxing, only lately has it become a sin, and believe me, your favorite fighter will resort to it when he has to too.

Ward doesn't have too many holes to his game. DelaHoya on the other hand has made many dumb decisions over his career. He's just lucky to have been born in the right era.

[KingHippo]

The thing is Ward woulda to move up to CW and fight Trinidad, Hopkins and Mosley caliber fighters, then we would have compare how those skills are great.


De La Hoya was more dominant and better IMO at 130,135 than Ward was at 168.

Despite the context, DLH wins over Chavez sr, Pernell and Camacho are better IMO than Ward's win over Kitty Kov, Croch and Kessler.

I'm not talking about who should be ranked higher in the boxing pantheon, I'm talking about pure skill.

DelaHoya has been in iconic fights, but how we rate these fighters has a lot to do with nostalgia. For instance, I always thought Trinidad was a garbage fighter.

The reason why DelaHoya ranks higher is because of the fights he's been in. Ward can't help the fact that he was born in the wrong era. Pound for pound, I think a fighter like Ward would completely embarrass someone of Trinidad's caliber. We all saw what happened when he fought someone of comparable skill in Hopkins. The guy just had a very low iq and wasn't adaptable. I also remember the Winky Wright fight. I don't think I remember seeing him throw one single straight right in that fight, and that's a big problem. The guy was just grossly overrated in my opinion. Ward would've completely dominated that era.

[BrometheusBob.]

Safe to call him a HOFer at this point

Not even top 500 in reality. He can't do much beyond win.

Wait I'm confused, I thought that would satisfy the criteria for being in the top 500?

[N!Ck F.]

Tremendous skill and ability to adjust and win, but god awful boring and a bit of a dirty fighter. I think generally most people agree with that since he's never made it mainstream and has had some really low PPV numbers.

[Mooshashi]

Well, he IS the Son of God after all. That makes him invincible at the very least. I can definitely imagine him head butting a fish and loaf of bread.

[ggg_kz]

I don't like Ward. He's a phony, angry, bitter person.

But he's on his way to greatness. He's a fighter, he mentally broke down Kovalev. Damn, even Marvelous Hagler threw about 16 borderline low blows against Hearns in his KO win, and does anybody have anything against him? In championship bouts where everything is on the line, champions DO fight dirty. ATGs have always fought dirty in the most important fights. This is a pro boxing. "This is not game".