Why does GGG get a pass for ducking Andre Ward?

[Ray*]

Golovkin has been more aggressive trying to unify than any other fighter on the planet.

He does have the WBC belt, but he didn't beat Canelo for it and now he has his chance to erase that asterisk.

It's already been explained to you why Golovkin vs. Ward didn't make any sense. They were in different weight classes and Ward was about to move up yet another division.

If the fight made financial sense for both parties, it would have happened..

So in short GGG is all about business!!! Yep I got it through you excuses filled post. I remember how every other fighter were criticised for the same thing, but now it's "It has already been explained to you" that it doesn't make business sense.... Really now?

He had a chance to unify and because the undisputed but nope went with the money, I can accept that. Just don't want to hear anyone criticise any fighter from past or in the future if they do the same thing.

[Ray*]

Bull****.

He's been trying to get Saunders in a ring for more than a year. As soon as Sanchez said that Golovkin is injured/sore and can't fight in June, everyone started talking about how Golovkin passed up the Saunders fight, which is absolutely garbage to anyone with a brain.

Golovkin's choices were easy - either take the Canelo fight in Sept that has been in discussions for 1.5 years (Cotto/Canelo), or pass on that fight, probably never get Canelo in the ring, all in the hopes that Saunders actually WOULD fight him.


The vast majority of the moves that K2+Golovkin has made for the last 3 years make absolute sense if people bothered to think about them, and vast majority of the managers and boxers would have made those exact moves, or perhaps f'd things up worse.
Half the time those moves did not bear fruit because someone was a little b1tch - Cotto in early/mid 2015 + Canelo, Saunders and Jacobs in 2016. Then of course you have your Quillin, Maravilla & Sturm if you're going back that far.

It's ok have already been told GGG is a businessman like the rest, you can put your pen away now.

[N/A]

He had a chance to unify and because the undisputed but nope went with the money, I can accept that. Just don't want to hear anyone criticise any fighter from past or in the future if they do the same thing.

You will never see me criticizing someone for taking the biggest fight possible. Golovkin should be applauded for being determined to beat Canelo to remove the asterisk from his WBC world championship.

[DuckAdonis]

That didn't stop brave fighters like Marquez, Khan, and Brook. Why can't he do the same? Ward isn't even that big of a light heavyweight right now, anyway.

Ward-Golovkin is the fight to make at 175.

Because hes not ******, it would be a fun fight but not the one to make if you're smart. Thought it was kind of lame from Ward to call out a way smaller guy tho

[j0zef]

It's ok have already been told GGG is a businessman like the rest, you can put your pen away now.

Or you can try using your brain instead of being an imbecile like the majority of the trolls and fools on this forum.

[Diego Rodriguez]

Because Ward was already 2 divisions above him:
Had we'd still been active at 168 then he would have a point

This whole "ducking" stuff is such BS. It is pretty simple, when GGG was desperate for a fight, Ward couldn't make the fight. When Ward was desperate for a big fight GGG had better options. It isn't tough to understand. Only the haters of GGG keep trying to push this story.

[Madison Boxing]

jubei disproved this already with facts, the conversation/topic is over. they should have made his thread a stickied one to stop this topic ever coming back again.

[Diego Rodriguez]

jubei disproved this already with facts, the conversation/topic is over. they should have made his thread a stickied one to stop this topic ever coming back again.

Can you link the thread? I'd be curious to read the fact that disapproves this. I don't believe there was any ducking involved but it is a matter of taking facts and drawing logical conclusions.

[Madison Boxing]

Can you link the thread? I'd be curious to read the fact that disapproves this. I don't believe there was any ducking involved but it is a matter of taking facts and drawing logical conclusions.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=726193

[JK1700]

Golovkin's focus was to unify the middleweight division. How can he "duck" someone in a higher weight class that isn't willing to move down and is actually planning to move up?

Can we really call somebody a ducker when they're doing everything possible to beat every single champion in their division? Where is the logic in that?

Golovkin vs. Ward never made any sense, which is why it didn't happen. When both of them have a history of facing the best fighters in their division, to label either a ducker is pretty silly. They were going in different directions, weren't in the same weight class, and the fight didn't make any sense to either side.

Of course one side will blame the other and vice versa. Unless you're privy to the actual behind the scenes conversations and/or negotiations, all you're doing is allowing your existing bias to cloud your assessment of the situation.

I've already explained this several times, it's a duck because he said he would fight anyone from 154-168 then backtracked when the top dog called him out. I'm not calling him a ducker in general, but he did duck Ward. He said he wanted to fight Chavez Jr at 168 but Ward? No, "maybe ill fight you in 4 years". If he didn't say he'd fight anyone and people didn't act like everyone's scared of this guy, I wouldn't hold him to this standard. But you can't be on the p4p list, say you'll fight anyone, they're all scared, then avoid these same people you said you would fight.

The fight would've made a lot of sense. Two undefeated champions of the p4p list going at it. There's really no bias here, I like both guys but i'm not really a big fan of either. It's just funny to me how some guys are made to move up and get pressured into big fights, then there's guys who can fight anyone, not move up, take easy fights and they get praised for it. You can't have it both ways.

So in short GGG is all about business!!! Yep I got it through you excuses filled post. I remember how every other fighter were criticised for the same thing, but now it's "It has already been explained to you" that it doesn't make business sense.... Really now?

He had a chance to unify and because the undisputed but nope went with the money, I can accept that. Just don't want to hear anyone criticise any fighter from past or in the future if they do the same thing.

LOL @ all these people acting like him unifying a bad Middleweight division is something special. The Canelo fight is his biggest challenge easily and that's a guy who has only just moved into the weight class. If Ward stayed at SMW and didn't fight Kovalev, the same people who are defending Golovkin for doing it would be calling him out saying he's scared and doesn't want the fight It happened with Kovalev before they fought, then they shut up once he beat him 2x.

The bottom line is - When he and his team were offered 50-50 they turned it down straight away and said "maybe in 4 years" That's a duck sorry but it is.