Why does GGG get a pass for ducking Andre Ward?

[Ray*]

I think when you are perceived as the puncher (GGG) you do not get that (?) on you when you duck a fight, but when you are a boxer/mover (Ward) you would get that (?) straightaway on you. And am strictly talking about the boxing media. Especially the corrupt/biased side of the media like Steve kim, Montoya , Fischer, Hauser etc

They would spend time accusing the boxer/mover of ducking but ignore the puncher if it was the same scenario. Its part and parcel of the politics in boxing, and i think most boxer now don't care anymore, this is why we are seeing a lot of boxer becoming businessmen, and i really don't blame them.

[Ray*]

Golovkin's focus was to unify the middleweight division. How can he "duck" someone in a higher weight class that isn't willing to move down and is actually planning to move up?

Can we really call somebody a ducker when they're doing everything possible to beat every single champion in their division? Where is the logic in that?

Golovkin vs. Ward never made any sense, which is why it didn't happen. When both of them have a history of facing the best fighters in their division, to label either a ducker is pretty silly. They were going in different directions, weren't in the same weight class, and the fight didn't make any sense to either side.

Of course one side will blame the other and vice versa. Unless you're privy to the actual behind the scenes conversations and/or negotiations, all you're doing is allowing your existing bias to cloud your assessment of the situation.

If his focus was fighting to unify why didn't he fight BJS? Instead of now Canelo? GGG can not have it both ways.

And Ward v GGG never made any sense? Wow

[Mukuro]

Is the OP aware that there are weight classes?

GGG took a L on the posturing, but calling it a duck is a bit rich.

[Rockybigblower]

Because
A. He didnt duck
and
B. Because we all want unified champions fighting in legitimate weight classes ( no 155 or 164 or 151 ) instead of money grabbers...and therefore we praise him instead of trying to bring him down.

[N/A]

If his focus was fighting to unify why didn't he fight BJS? Instead of now Canelo? GGG can not have it both ways.

Golovkin wanted to fight Saunders in June and Canelo in September. Canelo refused to fight Golovkin unless he canceled the Saunders fight. A Saunders fight is now being negotiated for December instead.

Golovkin is the only WBC WBA IBF world champion in boxing right now. Don't you feel a little silly questioning the sincerity of his desire to unify when he is the only fighter in the sport that currently holds the three most important belts?

[Ray*]

Golovkin wanted to fight Saunders in June.

But he didn't? Did he? So he didn't unify then gosh ya, So he chase the money and didn't unify. But you claimed the reason he didn't fight Ward was because he wanted to unify. He has actually didn't unify those belt in the ring, he had a chance to do that and become the undisputed at 160 but chose the money.

Am still waiting for your "Ward v GGG" doesn't make any sense. I was to see if you are a boxing fan or a businessman.

[BoxingIsGreat]

BecauseAndre Ward is 2 weight classes above him

That didn't stop brave fighters like Marquez, Khan, and Brook. Why can't he do the same? Ward isn't even that big of a light heavyweight right now, anyway.

Ward-Golovkin is the fight to make at 175.

[N/A]

But he didn't? Did he? So he didn't unify then gosh ya, So he chase the money and didn't unify. But you claimed the reason he didn't fight Ward was because he wanted to unify. He has actually didn't unify those belt in the ring, he had a chance to do that and become the undisputed at 160 but chose the money.

Am still waiting for your "Ward v GGG" doesn't make any sense. I was to see if you are a boxing fan or a businessman.

Golovkin has been more aggressive trying to unify than any other fighter on the planet. So if your criticism of him is that he's not focusing enough on unifying, maybe you're the one with a problem.

He does have the WBC belt, but he didn't beat Canelo for it and now he has his chance to erase that asterisk. The WBO belt is the least important of the four and Golovkin would be insane to turn down the Canelo fight right now when he can just as easily fight Saunders in December.

It's already been explained to you why Golovkin vs. Ward didn't make any sense. They were in different weight classes and Ward was about to move up yet another division. It wouldn't have been a huge money fight, both would have been risking their 0's in a non-title catchweight fight the public wasn't clamoring for.

If the fight made financial sense for both parties, it would have happened. To label either fighter a ducker is very silly when they've both always sought out the big fights in their division. They were never in the same division, so they never fought. If you were hoodwinked by the public posturing, that is your fault for being fooled.

[Gate keeper]

When was this offer in 2014 made? I haven't heard of it. I remember them talking about it when Ward was injured or having promoter issues or something. And then some one in K2 saying he was extremely difficult to work with, which we know he is from Main Events. And GGG and friends said he'd go to 154 or 168 for a big ppv fight that made financial sense. Ward was not, isn't and probably never will be a big ppv fight. I never know why not even one of many Golovkin haters likes to include that part of his statement. The only reason the Ward fight was in the conversation was because of media pressure. And if I'm not mistaken, 164 was only if Ward got 50/50 because he was B side but was trying to hustle them out of their purse like he does most fighters, especially Kovalev in their second fight.

[j0zef]

But he didn't? Did he? So he didn't unify then gosh ya, So he chase the money and didn't unify. But you claimed the reason he didn't fight Ward was because he wanted to unify. He has actually didn't unify those belt in the ring, he had a chance to do that and become the undisputed at 160 but chose the money.

Am still waiting for your "Ward v GGG" doesn't make any sense. I was to see if you are a boxing fan or a businessman.

Bull****.

He's been trying to get Saunders in a ring for more than a year. As soon as Sanchez said that Golovkin is injured/sore and can't fight in June, everyone started talking about how Golovkin passed up the Saunders fight, which is absolutely garbage to anyone with a brain.

Golovkin's choices were easy - either take the Canelo fight in Sept that has been in discussions for 1.5 years (Cotto/Canelo), or pass on that fight, probably never get Canelo in the ring, all in the hopes that Saunders actually WOULD fight him.


The vast majority of the moves that K2+Golovkin has made for the last 3 years make absolute sense if people bothered to think about them, and vast majority of the managers and boxers would have made those exact moves, or perhaps f'd things up worse.
Half the time those moves did not bear fruit because someone was a little b1tch - Cotto in early/mid 2015 + Canelo, Saunders and Jacobs in 2016. Then of course you have your Quillin, Maravilla & Sturm if you're going back that far.